Scouts-L Mail Archive for April of 1999: Re: Lapwing in the stars, merge? when?
Re: Lapwing in the stars, merge? when?
Richard C. Ickler
Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:09:55 -0700
I thought the list would be interested in this and got permission to
>From: "Westerhof T" <T.Westerhof@bioledu.rug.nl>
>Organization: RuG Onderwijs Biologie
>To: "Richard C. Ickler" <icklerr@SoCA.com>
>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:30:22 MET
>Subject: Re: Lapwing in the stars, merge? when?
>I see that you sent this to me personally and not to the list as well.
>Would you be willing to let me forward it to the full list? I think that
>it is a good description of Scouting Nedeland which many
>members of the
>list would be interested in.
>>"I think a lot of us would be interested in an explanation of Kwestas,
>>Explorers and Lapwings. Those are terms that I'm sure most of us outside
>>of The Netherlands have never heard of."
>A lapwing is a bird, "kievit" in Dutch (and "ljip" in Friesian), the name
>of my patrol. It's tradition that boys' patrols have animal names and
>girl's patrols of plants(flowers).
>>From Scouting Nederland (with a bit extra explanation)
>Usually, a Scouting group consists of an unit for every age group,
>and so the cubs advance to the scouts troop of the same group.
>The Tie is the same for the whole Scouting Group
>The age groups are :
>5-7 year : Bevers (Beavers) Reddish Sweater
> No they don't speak English or French, mostly that is.
> 7-11 year : Welpen/Kabouters/Esta's/Dolphins
>The different names reflect the different themes in which these
> units play. Historically, welpen (cubs) were the boys and
> kabouters the girls. The Esta theme is a new story, develloped
> especially for co-ed units, but many (co-ed ) units stay with the old
> programs. There are lots of single sex units. Dolfijnen (dolphins) is the
> name for this group in Waterscouting.(According one group it's Neptunes,
> very, very new) They are the K(abouter)W(elpen)Estas, they all
> wear green blouses, Dolphins too.
>11-14 year : Scouts
>Scouts is now the official name for this age group, both for boys
>and girls, although many units are single gender. Old names that
>you might encounter are verkenners ((boy) scouts) and
>padvindsters (pathfinders, female form)or gidsen (guides).
>(Kakiblouses, boys and girls do the same but the names do
> differ rather often.)
> Waterscouts is the section for (approximately) the same age
>group, but their programs take place on or near the water. (Blue
> blouses, Grey for AirScouts)
>14-17 year : Explorers (Landlubbers wear red/orange blouses)
>These units are almost alway co-ed. Other names: Rowans
>(boys) and Sherpa's (girls) Waterscouts call this age-group
>17-21 year : Jongeren (Young adults)
>Also almost always co-ed. Other names for these units are
>pioniers and voortrekkers, which is usually abbreviated as
>PiVo's. (Both terms translate into : pioneers) A Pivo unit is called a
>In Sea Scouting groups this section is called Loodsen.
>Oh, the Dutch Beaver program is very different from Canucky
>Beavering, but some groups use the Canadian program as basic
>program and add Dutch elements to it, or the other way round.
>Can someone tell the Canadian Beaverstory.
>Scouting started in the Netherlands in 1910, the 90-year
>celebration will have as main element the 1st National
>Jamboree(They want just 40% foreigners).
> Scouting Nederland is the result of the fusion in 1973 of 3 Boy
>Scouting Organisations and 2 for Girl Scouting with different
>denominations , this explains why Scouting Nederland has no
>denomination at all, but that Scouting groups do rather often have
>Respecting the religion of yourself and others is Scouting here,
>religion is not.
>Dutch for Scout is padvinder, by the way.