Scouts-L Mail Archive for April of 1999: Re: Gender
Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:48:51 MET
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Subject: Re: Gender
> T. Westerhof of the Netherlands asked:
> > Sorry, but can anybody tell me if there are people anywhere in the
> > US, who want to do some really serious Scouting with a lot of fun
> > and don't give a damn about something"irrelevant" like the gender
> (I'm sure I'll get flamed for this one)
> Yes there are. But, Scouting in the USA is "different" (wierd?). I've
> never been to the Netherlands, but in France (as I briefly saw it) there
> are several Scouting paths under a single umbrella organization. In their
> own way they are exclusionary by religion or gender but offer similar
Actually there are French Scouts not under the umbrella, unlike the
Dutch, you see why " my country" is thrown out of the promise and
the Godpart is optional in the Netherlands? Scouting Nederland
wants to unite all Dutch Scouts.
That's a bad word, remember WW II
> > No possibility for a Guides&Scouts USA?
> Perhaps when the Canadians invade us and win ;-)
Come on Beavers!
One of the alternative (equally old) paths is the "Campfire". The Campfire Girls
> became gender integrated 25 years ago and is now the Campfire Boys and
> Girls Clubs. Other youth organizations include the 4-H and Future Farmers
> of America which have an agrarian focus.
OK, but Scouting is Scouting, Campfire, HHHH and future farmers
are similar but not Scouting.