Scouts-L Mail Archive for April of 1999: Eagle Requirements
Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:19:12 -0400
I've tried to stay out of this one, but the chorus of
"right ons" to the thought that a troop can hold Eagle
rank advancement "hostage" for attendance at troop
meetings is just to much for me.
I don't have a big problem with those who don't know
the rules and are applying their own interpretation to
the requirements. But I do have a problem with those who,
although they *KNOW* what BSA's official position is on
this (either through the communications that have been
passed through this list or via direct communication with
John Dalrymple at the National Office), continue to feel
that they can still say "not in my troop" and ignore the
National directives. Aren't we all supposed to follow the
Scout Oath and Law? If we refuse to be obedient to those
regulations that we personally don't like, how can we
expect our scouts to follow?
National's position is clear. The by-laws of the BSA define
what an active member is. It means someone that you are
carrying on your roster as an active member. If scouts do
not want to attend your program, the thing to do is to get
a more interesting program! If you are forcing a scout to
attend, are you really instilling "scout spirit" in him?
National has also been clear on the position of responsibility.
If you are doing your job and you are the leader of a truly
boy-led troop, each position of responsibility is a key role.
If you and the PLC did not feel the need to remove a boy from
office because of lack of performance, the assumption is that he
must have been doing the job. Otherwise, the troop could not
function. IF YOU ARE DOING THE JOB FOR HIM, OR LETTING ANOTHER
SCOUT DO THE JOB FOR HIM, THAT IS YOUR FAILURE, AND NOT HIS.
Eagle requirements have changed throughout the years. The =
Eagle project, for example, is a relatively recent requirement
given the 89 years that scouting has been around. Does this
mean that individuals that earned Eagle before that time are
somehow "less deserving"? Mark Dwyer noted that in the =
beginning, the only requirements for Eagle were first class
and earn 21 merit badges. Gee, no "be active for 6 months".
No serve in a position of responsibility. Only five
"required" merit badges. No service project. I guess they
weren't really Eagles, after all.
The one thing I do agree with is that National could do a
much better job of getting the word out on this via training.
Joseph A. Alessi in Ozwin 2.30.1
Vice Chair - Program, Lafayette District
ASM Troop 313, Cradle of Liberty Council
Adviser to the Treasurer, Unami Lodge
I used to be an Owl
for Eagle was to be first class and earn =