Scouts-L Mail Archive for April of 1999: Re: National pt. 2 of 2 (forwarded from Mike Walton)
Re: National pt. 2 of 2 (forwarded from Mike Walton)
Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:30:16 -0700
What follows is the second part of a response I
received from Mike Walton.
>I have seen many complaints about uniforming,
religion, sexual preferences and such.
Mee too!! And believe me, when I don't read my
email, those kinds of questions quickly make my little
email box light up, Paul!!
>We've been warned off from the so-called 3-Gs because
the arguments go nowhere. Why?
There are two reasons why: first, WE as field
volunteers (okay, all of you Council Executives,
Council Commissioners and Presidents, and
area/regional volunteers DO NOT STAND UP WHEN YOU READ
THIS!!) don't have a say in what "national does".
Never had, never will. That's why WE elect Council
and District representatives to do our talking for us
and to tell National WHAT THIS COUNCIL FEELS IS
IMPORTANT. For that reason, simply talking about the
pros and cons to those three issues don't do anything
but promote blood pressure medications, force people
to start either throwing things at their terminals
while cussing (or at least yelling really, really
loudly) or just signing off this and other mailing
lists because "that's all they are there to talk
Second, because the BEST WAY to approach and make
change comes from INSIDE the organization and NOT from
OUTSIDE (i.e. court cases). When we Scouters start
making the changes from within our units, within our
Districts and Councils, National will see this and
(through our elected representatives) will make
Remember Paul, that Scouts-L DOES NOT BELONG to the
BSA nor the GSUSA. The ONLY connection that this list
has to either organization (okay, connections!) are
that volunteers and professionals from both
organizations (and some others) are "subscribers" and
>Does "National" listen to the majority of the members
or not? Is the BSA a democracy or an autocracy?
YES!! I can say that with a lot of authority and
"ummph!!" I'lll give a couple of really brief
examples, because I'm afraid I've reached the limit
for this posting:
*Explorer uniforms were shelved and returned to the
field after a letterwriting campaign *Eagle Scout
palms were allowed to be worn on the square knot
because of Scouters asking for this *modifications to
the age limit for WEBELOS were made *women were
allowed to serve as volunteers and professionals after
a long battle over "adult male association" was found
to be lacking in substance *Wood Badge for Cub
Scouters was finally developed and implemented
There's a lot of other ways in which you and I,
VOLUNTEERS, banded together in our local Councils and
have told our elected representatives "Hey...let's do
this" and a few years later, it was done.
Nothing in the BSA happens overnight; it's always a
process of seeing if the program change or
modification will work uniformally everywhere the BSA
is. But once the change is made, you can bet that it
wasn't made because a bunch of professionals merely
said "let's do it". As a matter of fact, many times
that a bunch of professionals sat around and suggested
stuff, it failed and failed miserably ("Leadership
Corps"?) once it hit the field ("Venture and Varsity
in the Troop") ("striaght WEBELOS shoulder badges").
>I want to know who the people are setting the rules.
WE are the people setting AND enforcing the rules. We
do so through those people we elect, both at the local
Council level AND at the National level, and we do so
with full understanding that if WE DO NOT GET FULLY
INVOLVED in what our program will be like, don't
worry....our professionals will pick up the ball and
DO WHAT THEY THINK WE THINK is best.
We're already seeing much of this going on, Paul....we
need more volunteers to become involved in THEIR
Council and THEIR Council's operation!!
Hope this helps out!!
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