Scouts-L Mail Archive for April of 1999: Re: Who is National--Annoyed at National
Re: Who is National--Annoyed at National
Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:53:09 -0500
At 04:37 PM 4/21/99 -0700, you wrote:
>As long as I can recall, I have never seen anybody
>explain exactly who it is that runs the BSA. I have
>seen obscure references to "National", but no real
>explanation as to who that is.
Your question has at least two different answers.
I would venture a guess that greater than 99% of the time when "National" is
referred to on this list it means the paid profession staff in Irving, Texas.
These are the people responsible for the day-to-day implementation of the
programs and operations of the BSA.
Back in February Settumanque (Mike Walton) posted the following description of
> However, here's a SMALL SUMMARY of how the BSA's organized (and to
> those pros sitting in the back or side doors, don't laugh...I'm
> using the last edition of the Scout Executive's Manaul that *I've
> got* to answer this...if things have changed, PLEASE CHIME IN (and
> if you don't want to post to the list, please post to me or Jon and
> your posting can be placed here anonyomously!)
> Here goes:
> First, remember that the BSA wants you to know the functions and
> players of YOUR LOCAL COUNCIL, Jay and not so much the functions
> and people at the National Office; for it's the local Council
> people that you and your fellow Scouters will (should) be working
> with and where you should get the first line of questions answered.
> With the disclaimers out of the way...
> The BSA is organized into nine "working groups." This is a
> management tool, aimed at getting people to think "outside their
> realm of expertise" (outside the box) as well as to be able to back
> up each other as the National Office's staffing shrinks over the
> The Office of the Chief Scout Executive is where you'll find the
> Chief Scout Executive, the Director of Operations, and their small
> staff. Four Regional Directors have dual hats as Deputy Chief
> Scout Executives as well as the senior professional within that
> Region. Together, this forms the Chief Scout Executive Group.
> The four Regions, and their professional staffing which includes
> their Area Directors, and other staffers are each considered a
> Regional Group (Northeast, Southern, Central, Western).
> The other four Groups are Administration, headed up by the National
> Director of Administration; Program, headed up by the National
> Director of Program; Council Support and Management, which is
> headed up by the Director of Personnel; and
> Membership/Relationships, headed by a National Director of
> (Look familiar?? The BSA uses the same "five functions" that many
> of our Councils use -- Finance is rolled up in Council Support and
> Under those groupings are twenty-one standing and eight "ad-hoc"
> divisions and services, all corresponding to appropriate volunteer
> oversight committees:
> In Membership/Relationships, there's:
> *Labor Relationships
> *Religious Relationships
> *Educational Relationships
> *Governmental Relationships
> *Membership Support
> In Program, there's:
> *Cub Scout Program
> *Boy Scout Program (with separate staffers for Boy and Varsity
> Scouting, and for the Order of the Arrow)
> *Venturing Program (with separate staffers co-mingled with the old
> Exploring Division
> *Advancement/Eagle Scout Service (with separate staffers for the
> Eagle Scout Service and for all other advancement...)
> *Outdoor Adventure and Activities (with separate staffers for each
> of the four national Outdoor bases and for Conservation programs)
> Under the Council Support and Management Group, there's:
> *Finance Support (with staffers in finance and investment, local
> Council finance)
> *Council Services
> *Information Management
> *Properties and Engineering
> Under Adminstration, we have:
> *Editorial (with separate staffers for _Boys'_Life_ and _Scouting_;
> for internal publishing and printing and for external publishing
> and printing)
> *Professional Development (and the Professional Development Center,
> which also includes the Professional Recruiting folks)
> *Volunteer Training and Development (which includes the folks at
> Philmont's Volunteer Training Center)
> *Personnel Administration and Benefits
> *Marketing (with separate internal and external communications)
> Within each Region, there's at least one professional that serves
> as that Region's "representative" to each of the five groups above.
> So, there's a Regional Director of Administration, Program,
> Operations (this is called something else now, right?? that's what
> my stubby pencil marks say!), and Membership/Relationships.
> Other professionals serve as associates/assistants to those primary
> Regional staffers or as Area Directors or Associate Area Directors
> (if the area is large), the "supervisors and coaches" of the
> Council's Scout Executives.
What may not be clear from Mike's posting is that several areas, such as
program, have national level committees comprised of volunteers that provide
the greatest level of input.
The other 1% of the time "National" refers to the National Council. This is
the body that "controls" BSA under the Congressional charter. It meets
annually. Just as a local council is comprised of representative from the
Chartered Partners--the people who sponsor the Packs, Troops and Crews--plus
"at large" members, the National Council is comprised of representatives from
the local councils. I don't know whether there are "at large" members on the
national level, but I'm sure that someone on the list can fill that in.
Hope this helps.
Yours in Scouting,
Hank Voegtle--Eagle Scout-Class of '68
Cubmaster, Pack 456, Dallas, Texas
District Committee Member, North Trail District, Circle 10 Council