Scouts-L Mail Archive for April of 1999: Re: Curiosity - The Final Word
Re: Curiosity - The Final Word
Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:46:09 -0700
Wait a minute ladies and gentlemen.
Let's consider some additional information before passing judgement on "God and Country" and the other issues. We are passing positive and negative judgement on only a part of the scouting program. The God, girls, and gays debate is only addressing the young uniformed elements of the BSA program. Girls may participate in scouting from age 14 through the Venturing program. Anyone may participate in the Learning for Life and Career Exploring
program as long as they are in a city or school that participates. What is the difference? Nothing! Ethical decision-making. Respect for self and others. Avoid drugs. Service to others. These are the major principles we teach to our uniformed scouts as well. Now is always successful? No. Neither is the uniformed program. The Scouting Movement in the United States is reaching alot of kids in many different ways so that children will be able
to get the point of scouting even if they choose not to wear the uniform, earn the patches that everyone identifies with scouting. The bells and whistles don't make the program, the message does. And the BSA is working to get it to as many people as possible wether or not they want to, they are able to, or can afford to, in the front door (uniformed program) or back door (Education Outreach Program).
I'm ready to get flammed personally or publically.
Eagle Scout Class of 1985
James F. Van Hecke Jr. wrote:
> And if we drop the requirement to "Do my Duty to God" then Duty to Country may not be far behind, and then we can start dropping off those parts of the Scout Law that don't happen to be 100% agreeable to the entire population, like Trustworthy, etc. Then we can be just an organization who has no guiding purpose or value, just a bunch of guys and gals, with differing values, hanging out for whatever reason we decide is OK at the moment. NO THANKS!
> At 09:56 AM 4/22/99 EDT, Bob Riley wrote:
> >Richard Rose wrote :
> ><<As a simple answer, Read the Scout Oath
> >and Law..particularly the 12th point. How
> >can an atheist "Do my Duty to God"?>>
> >Oops, ya got us. Somehow that point got
> >past us. I guess we'll just have to pack up
> >our tents and get out of Dodge. By high noon.
> >It would certainly be unheard of in this country
> >to fight to get a law/rule changed because we
> >are more enlightened people now than when the
> >law/rule was created.
> >Yep, that must be why slavery is still legal.
> >Because, God knows, it was not a majority
> >view among the entire country to abolish it.
> >The same goes for women not having the legal
> >right to vote. That certainly was not a popular
> >idea among the majority of the country either.
> >Yep, since it's a rule I guess we can't do
> >anything about it.
> >And that's my last word on that. Amen.
> >My apologies to the list for my, uh, sense
> >of humor. I haven't had my morning coffee yet.
> >Looking For The Best From Scouting,
> >Bob Riley
> >Pack 639
> >Watervliet, NY
> >Fort Orange District
> >Twin Rivers Council
> >It takes courage . . . .
> > . . . . to have courage.
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