Scouts-L Mail Archive for April of 1999: I have a dilemma, please help
I have a dilemma, please help
Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:32:13 -0700
About a month ago, I received a phone call from a SM asking me if he
could legally within BSA Guidelines, require a prospective Eagle scout
to do some extra work to pay back the troop. I told him that my
understanding of the guidelines was that no additional requirements
could be placed on the scouts for rank advancement. Well, you guessed
it, about 2 weeks later, I received another phone call, from the Scout
this time. He wanted to know if a SM could refuse to do a SM
conference for rank advancement. As I asked for more information, I
discovered that this scout was being told that he could not have a SM
conference for his Eagle rank until he had paid back the troop. He
had EVERY other requirement done, except for the SM conference! Not
knowing what to do at this point, I turned to my District Chairman.
In the meantime, many meetings were taking place between the parents,
the scout, and this SM. The SM refused to give them a list of what he
expected to be done. Each time they met, the SM would build their
hopes that he would cooperate within the next week. At one point, he
phoned me on March 30th to ask if he HAD to sign the application by
the next day. Foolishly, I told him that as long as the work was
completed before the last day of March, the Scout could turn in the
paperwork after April 1st. Now, the District Chairman and I have met
with the SM, some troop committee people, the Scout, and his parents.
Today the District Chair phoned the council to ask what could be done.
Council has informed him that the Scout has 2 options. One, transfer
to another troop. Two, file an appeal. But they caution, the Scout
MUST stay with the original troop if an appeal is filed, until the
problem is resolved, or the appeal will be dropped.
So, my first question is, since the SM conference is not dated before
April 1st, does the Scout have to earn Personal Fitness also?
Second, can nothing be done about a SM that does business this way?
This is not the first Scout that he has pulled this on, we have been
informed! The District Commissioner has been requested to check out
the troop, but says that unless they invite him to, his hands are
somewhat tied. Even if he does visit, and observes something
inappropriate (for example a non-boy run troop); what could be done
I am struggling with this one folks. Knowing that something
inappropriate is going on and not being able to stop it, is taking the
fun out of Scouting for me. I have observed this prospective Eagle
Scout in a matter of three weeks, change from eager and excited about
Scouting; to quiet, withdrawn, and discouraged.
Does anyone have answers? Please respond to:
Dist. Advancement Chairman
Green River Dist.
Chief Seattle Council
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