Scouts-L Mail Archive for April of 1999: Re: Timely Order of the Arrow elections
Re: Timely Order of the Arrow elections
Kevin E. Johnson
Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:48:44 EDT
In a message dated 4/4/99 11:06:42 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
> You mention an ordeal at summer camp... I hav ento been that many places
> but I have never heard of this before.. ((of course that does nto mean
> it does not happen))
> but what purpose does this serve.. one it robs a Scout of a day of
> summer camp activity... and second what about scouts from out of
> coucil... as you can not attend an ordeal given by another lodge... you
> must attend one of the lodge by which you were elected...
> hey maybe you are confusing the "call out" at summer camp with the
I'm the Program Director at a camp that offers the call-out and Ordeal during
the week at camp. Our camp and our lodge have found this to be a very good
part of our program, for a number of reasons.
First, it provides another opportunity for a Scout to do the Ordeal, if he
was unable to make it for one of the other chances. Each Scout has four
(count 'em, four) chances to do the Ordeal: two work weekends before camp,
during the week he is at camp, and a work weekend at the end of the summer.
Should a Scout be busy with school in May, and busy in September, he isn't
out of luck.
Second, the ceremonies we offer at camp tend to be a higher quality than
those offered at the work weekends. When your ceremony team does the
ceremony once a week for ten weeks, they get pretty good at it.
Third, our camp has continual service all summer long. When a job needs to
be done and we don't have the people to do it, we can have our OA crew do it.
Yes, having the Ordeal at camp robs a Scout of a day of camp activity. Our
schedule has a "day off" on Thursday, when we offer no merit badge classes
but just have fun and play games instead. The Scout misses this, but giving
up a day of fun to spend the day working is part of the Ordeal, isn't it?
You're right, Scouts from out-of-council can't do the Ordeal at our camp
unless they have prior permission from their home lodge. But just because
some of the Scouts can't do it doesn't mean we shouldn't offer it for
Boatswain, Sea Scout Ship 839
Assistant Scoutmaster, Troop 839
Vice-Chief of Program, Tahosa Lodge 383
Program Director, Camp Dietler, Peaceful Valley Scout Ranch, Denver Area