Scouts-L Mail Archive for February of 1999: Fwd: Speaking of Registration Data....
Fwd: Speaking of Registration Data....
Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:11:35 -0600
We've been talking about the ScoutNet 2000 and the BSA's
registration data and how's its so important; here's an example of
why professionals are very leery to share that information with us
volunteers; more importantly, why many professionals don't want to
be around the SN2K stuff once it's there in their Councils!!
The information, unfortunately, is being reposted here WITHOUT the
permission of the newspaper; I'm still waiting on them to respond
to my posted request. This was originally posted over on the
rec.scouting.issues USENET newsgroup, however. The link is there to
the original newspaper's online story.
The "former Scout leader" involved here was a former Council
President of the Western Colorado Council, who had a press
conference announcing his withdrawal from that office as well as
his returning of all of the BSA awards that he had received as a
sign of protest against the Senate's not guilty verdicts in the
President's trial (please, no comments either way about it....).
The Silver Buffalo Award is not given for "character" but rather
for "national service to youth" and has been traditionally been
presented to every President of the United States since the award
was conceived in 1927. The award is presented not to the
individual, but rather to the President of the United States,
acting as Honorary National President of the Boy Scouts of America,
for his leadership and influnces in providing the nation with
programs for young citizens and their families (not just BSA
This should remind us, NO MATTER WHAT YOUTH ORGANIZATION WE BELONG
TO, that membership and financial data concerning our volunteers
and youth members should be just that; membership and financial
data about our members and leaders. We don't use that information
in ANY OTHER WAY other than to further the organization and to make
the program work for those we serve.
And when we're done with the information, we either return it to
the local office for disposal, or we shred and destroy the
information and any copies we may have "just in case." In this
case, this action could ruin that local Councils' ability to raise
monies or to attract volunteers for some time. It has that much of
a potential for harm to the program, something that professionals
and former ones pledge never to do (it's part of the Scout
Executive's Oath, in the case of BSA professionals).
(and it should remind professionals in youth agency fields that
even though we work closely with our volunteers, respect the
reasoning why they would want to "let everyone know" about
significant issues affecting youth and their program, that there's
a broad line which must NEVER be crossed -- for money, for
"increased public support", for politicial or religious reasons or
any other reason. We DO NOT CROSS THAT LINE in providing
membership and/or financial data!)
>Scout leader loses his job for releasing mailing list
>By C. PATRICK CLEARY
>The Daily Sentinel
>The Boy Scouts of America has fired a Grand Junction employee who
>released a mailing list that a former scout leader used to
>distribute a letter criticizing the BSA's refusal to rescind a top
>award for character given to President Clinton.
>Jamie Gragg, 29, was fired Friday by Western Colorado Council BSA
>Executive Keith Alder for what Alder termed "an unforgiveable
>mistake," Gragg said Tuesday.
>Alder on Tuesday said he could not comment on Gragg's status
>because it is a personnel matter.
>Garry Brewer, the former scout leader and volunteer who wrote the
>letter, said the BSA was using Gragg as a scapegoat.
>"I think it is pretty low," said Brewer, a former chairman of the
>Mesa County Republican Party. "Someone had to pay for criticizing
>Bill Clinton getting the award. Too bad it wasn't Clinton."
>Gragg, who is married and has three boys, said he had served as
>district executive for two years, handling money, manpower and
>membership in several western Colorado counties. Those duties
>included ensuring there are volunteers and publicity for scouting
>Part of that included routinely giving out the mailing list to
>volunteers who requested the list, Gragg said.
>That was the case when Brewer two weeks ago requested the mailing
>labels for 1,800 volunteers in western Colorado.
>"I've given out the list quite a few times. It's not a problem at
>all," Gragg said. "Garry called and asked for the list of mailing
>labels and I said, 'Sure.' I didn't question him one little bit.
>He is a good friend of mine."
>Brewer used the list to mail his letter, "Has Scouting Program's
>Integrity Gone Sour?" A 46-year scouting veteran, Brewer wrote
>that he was resigning from the BSA and returning all of his
>scouting awards because of the organization's refusal to demand
>that Clinton, who was impeached for perjury and obstruction of
>justice, return his Silver Buffalo Award, scouting's top award for
>Gragg said had he known ahead of time how Brewer was going to use
>the list, he wouldn't have given it to him.
>"Regardless of if I agree with what he did or not, it's not
>grounds for dismissal," said Gragg, who added that he had recently
>received a pay raise.
>Gragg said he immediately approached local scout leaders and
>apologized once he realized what had happened. He said he also
>apologized to about 50 people who got the letter when they
>inquired how Brewer got their name.
>Alder said the BSA has a strict policy governing how the list of
>its volunteers can be used.
>"The Boy Scouts have policies not to use (the list) for
>commercial, business or private use," Alder said. "The whole
>thing, we need to respect our volunteers."
>Alder said his office received calls and letters both for and
>against Brewer's position after The Daily Sentinel published a
>story about the letter on Feb. 9.
>Alder said he also got about five letters from volunteers who were
>upset that Brewer had their names and addresses.
>"We've just got to protect our youth," Alder said. "I feel very
>strong about protecting our youth and leaders from who knows what
>people want to contact them."
>Alder, who has been scout executive for the past year, had been
>out of town when news of Brewer's letter broke. Back at work on
>Friday, he called Gragg into his office at about 4 p.m. and fired
>"I apologized profusely," Gragg said. "He didn't accept it."
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