Scouts-L Mail Archive for February of 1999: Re: Smoking, Drinking and Chewing on Campout
Re: Smoking, Drinking and Chewing on Campout
Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:29:53 -0600
At 04:40 PM 2/20/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>This past week he was contacted by a couple of parents who said that their
>sons had told them that a couple of scouts had been Smoking (cigarettes),
>Chewing tobacco, Dipping snuff and had a bottle of Beer and did I fail to
>mention the Cuban Cigar!
My first question after taking a very big deep breath, " Are these two
scout families, new to Scouts, the troop, has there been a problem in the
past of talking/reporting truthfulness from these two Scouts?"
>A little more investigating by the SM was done and he found out that a total
>of 7 scouts were around when this little party took place. It was also
>discovered that only one of the scouts actually brought the items. And from
>what he can find out that scout and another one were the only two die hard
>Party Boys! The other five may have tried one of the items but did not
>continue as the other two did.
Second how did this happen without any adults seeing, hearing or smelling
what was going on?
>Question for the group: How do you handle this so the other scouts do not
>know that one of them told on the others?
This is pretty simple, at the next troop meeting, have a "reflection time"
concering the campout. Remind the boys the Scout Laws 12 points. With
that in mind open the floor for 'constructive critisim" on the campout,
hoping that someone will have a conscience a say something that will led to
the "party problem". You cannot forget to ask for the good points of the
campout as well. If nothing comes out I guess you have Scoutmaster Minutes
for a while bring out the hazards of each time one meeting at a time.
Do you talk to each one alone or
>as a group or do you talk to the entire troop of 30 scouts with all parents
As a group with parents, that way some smart parents may have some
questions for their scout on the way /or at home, so that another opening
will be left for someones conscience to get to them.
>Now what about punishment. Everything that the SM was told was second hand
>information, no adults every saw or found anything.
Punishment is going to be tough on second hand info, and with no adults
present aware of it at the campout. A campout or two suspennsion would be
a start IF it was know as a fact that this happened and who was involved.
And a good sit down with parents present so ALL understand BSA policy on
these issues, the Troops policy, and the health hazzard involved with these
I would strongly suggest that before any of these discussion take place, a
prayer be made to help the leaders say the approriate things and keep the
Unit Commissioner P336
Mom to a 1st class Scout, 5 & 3 year old!