Scouts-L Mail Archive for February of 1999: Re: Skiing and Snow Sports MBs
Re: Skiing and Snow Sports MBs
Paul S. Wolf
Sun, 21 Feb 1999 00:15:39 -0500
Joseph Alessi wrote:
> Bruce Mccrea wrote:
> >> Several Scouts in our troop completed both merit badges
> earlier this month. Now our District Advancement Chairman is
> questioning whether these Scouts can earn both Skiing and Snow
> Sports merit badges doing very similar requirements at the
> same time. <<
> Bruce, I too would question your reasoning on this. Remember -
> as of 1/1/1999 the skiing merit badge CEASED TO EXIST. There is
> no "window" where both badges are authorized.
Sorry Joe, you are wrong. First, the requirements for Merit Badges
become mandatory (and the old ones expire) on 4/1/99, not 1/1/99.
Second, the new ones CAN be used as soon as the book was issued, which
> The only boys who could properly be awarded this badge were those
> who had started work on this badge *BEFORE* 12/31/1998. They would
> have to had a properly authorized blue card signed by the SM and have
> met with a counselor to begin work before 12/31.
Here you are correct, IF you change the date to 3/31/99.
> The way I read the rules is that a boy who started work on the
> skiing badge as noted above has until he is 18 to complete the
> skiing badge.
Again, change 12/31/98 top 3/31/99, and you are correct.
> Also, a boy who completed the skiing badge before 12/31/1998 now has
> the opportunity to earn the snow sports merit badge.
> He would have to "redo" the requirements, though.
Here, we disagree again. IF the MB counselor accepts the work, there is
no need to do it again. It is just like asking the boy to do the CPR
requirement in Rowing, canoeing, Small Boat Sailing, etc. over for each
badge. It is NOT required to repeat it if the MBC accepts the work.
> I could probably be persuaded that a boy in situation 1 could
> go ahead and finish skiing, and then go ahead and earn snow
> sports. I would not allow a scout to earn both badges at
> the same time.
Not your call. IF THE MBC accepts the work, the boy can earn both.
Also, no one, you, the MBC nor anyone else can add to the requirements
as they are written.
Bruce Cobern has spoken directly with John Dalrymple at BSA HQ on this
issue, and verified what I've said above.
Paul S. Wolf, PE mailto:Paul.S.Wolf@alum.wpi.edu
Traffic Engineer, Cuyahoga County Engineer's Office, Cleveland, Ohio
Past President, Great Lakes Region, Federation of Jewish Men's Clubs
Winding Rivers Dist. Advancement Comm., Greater Cleveland Council, BSA
Advancement Webmaster, US Scouting Service Project (www.usscouts.org)