Scouts-L Mail Archive for February of 1999: Re: Religious Emblem
Re: Religious Emblem
Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:59:44 -0600
Irene Kempf <IKMOM4@AOL.COM> wrote and asked:
>You may earn a religious medal several times, but you only get one
>knot. I just inquired about this at our scout shop and was told
>that after the first one you can wear a device on the knot. I
>have never heard of this. Has anyone else?
I have, and have put together a web page which explains exactly
what you're talking about, Irene. It's part of the Unofficial
Uniform and Insignia Guide site and is located at the following web
There, you'll see an explaination of the devices, how to get them,
where to wear them on the knot(s) and even some scans showing how
they are worn together or separately.
>My understanding is that an adult can wear the knot only if they
>earned the medal as a child.
There are two knots. One, the silver Mylar threaded knot on a fully
embrodered deep purple background is called the "youth religious
emblem square knot." It is worn by all youth members whom have
earned a religious emblem and by adults WHOM HAVE EARNED OR
RECEIVED A RELIGIOUS EMBLEM AS A YOUTH.
The other, reverses the colors and is NOT fully embrodered. This
purple knot on a silver (it's actually grey) background and Mylar
silver border is for any ADULT whom earns or receives an ADULT
RELIGIOUS EMBLEM. Youth members cannot wear this knot emblem.
This emblem is called the "adult religious emblem square knot."
Only one youth and one adult religious emblem is worn by any one
member. The order in which the two knot emblems are worn is up to
Note that most religious bodies award religious emblems to adults
based on Scouting or youth program SERVICE, and not through meeting
requirements or encouraging youth to complete requirements. There
are some exceptions, but they are few.
Also note that you DO NOT NEED TO BE A BSA or GSUSA member in order
to earn or receive a religious emblem. The various religious bodies
makes their awards available to a broad number of youth
organizations, but ONLY THE BSA has the two square knots for
informal wear on their uniforms.
The knots and devices are available for retail sale from your local
Council service center ("Scout office") ("trading post") or from
the local Scout Shop (tm).
Finally, to answer Sherri's question about the mentor's pin, I want
to repost David Lupo's response, because it's the right answer in
>Also, when we did the God and Me, I was the counselor and the
>advancements person gave me the religious emblem to wear. After
>reading about the emblem, I'm not sure I should have gotten this.
>Is it only for the scouts or adults who earned it as a scout (I
>didn't) or is it also for the counselors? Thanks.
David Lupo responded:
:There is a mentor's pin for adults who complete the mentor's
:program along with a child, but I don't think it's a uniform-wear
:item, and it isn't meant to be represented by wearing the adult
:religious knot (silver background with purple knot).
If you've received the Mentor's pin, you can wear it but as David
mentioned, you haven't "earned the award" and therefore you can't
wear the square knot. If the advancements person just gave you an
extra God and Me award pin, you're not supposed to wear it at all,
since youth awards are reserved for, well, youth members.
Hope that all of this helps both Sherri and Irene out; and thanks,
David, for the GREAT answer!
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