Scouts-L Mail Archive for February of 1999: Re: Scenario
James A. Sheckels
Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:07:18 -0500
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> Behalf Of James Wellborn
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 7:59 PM
> SM hasn't been very available for 12-14 months. Taking care of
> difficult work and demanding family situations with strength, dignity,
> determination and honor. SM has a decade of history with the Troop.
> Old school macho.
Tactfully, remind the SM of who we are here for - YOUTH. If Committee can't
handle it, have Scouts and family get involved. Invite the Unit
> Other adult Scouters have helped the Troop move from great conflict to a
> rather impressive Boy-run effort with mostly 11-12 and a couple 13-14
> year olds.
If he IS a problem, and he can't see what's happening, it reinforces my
point above. Who is he there for?
> SM called CC to state that the vote and recommendation exceeded the
> committee's authority (It's the Charter org's responsibility and
> obligation to select SM, true.)
Absolutely INCORRECT. The Unit Committee is specifically tasked with
interviewing and selecting ALL adult leaders. This is one of the committee's
most important functions. The CC must sign his approval as well as the CR.
Now, the CR (or IH) may decide to disapprove whomever is selected, but
that's a whole other can of worms, isn't it?
>SM plan's to stay SM even though he has
> been unable to attend almost all functions for over year (Overtime
> "obligations" - legitimate and totally understandable an "would do the
> same thing in your shoes").
Just reinforcing my first point. It is the YOUTH's program. It belongs to
>"The Troop is in better shape than it has been in years.
>Keep doing what you're doing. I'm SM until I or Charter Organization says
Reinforcing. Can he really not see that what the Troop is doing DOES NOT
include him? I'm wondering - has he been to the mountaintop? Ask him. If
he says yes, ask him if he remembers the last firelay.
>That alienated the CC to the point of "I quit.
Tell him to hang in there. Be there for the YOUTH. If the Troop is in
better shape, he is part of that - for the YOUTH.
>CC has been Eagle youth,
Ah, naw, he "IS" an Eagle ;-)
> I'm not interested in passing the buck to someone else (District
> Commish... viewed by SM as members of the "stinkin'yankees"
> carpetbagging the District... ohhhh remember you're hearing only my side
> of the story....)
The SM's view does not matter, as I see it. And you are not passing the
buck. Unless, you get "uninvolved" in the process.
You need to involve the Unit Commissioner or District Commissioner. This is
a unit leadership problem. This is THEIR job that they made a commitment to
be involved with. Since it is their job, you are involving them in a support
role, not passing the buck.
The District Executive should get involved too. It is HIS job to educate
chartered organizations on their role and responsibilities.
The Council and District Membership/Relationships Committee have a role too.
It is THEIR job to communicate with chartered organizations and CR,s as well
as train CRs on their responsibilities.
You have a wealth of resources to help you and the committee. Don't carry
the burden all by yourselves - expect, even demand, that the District and
Council assist and support in the best way.
Even though you are dealing with an ego, or perhaps an emotional person,
the YOUTH, and what is in their best interest, must be your foremost
motivator in this situation.
References you may want to look at:
Membership/Relationships Committee Guide, #33080A (1997)
Troop Committee Guidebook, #34505B (1998), especially Chapter 5. On page 21
it specifically states that the committee approves the selection of the SM -
CR signs the form accepting that approval.
Form 28-182J - The Annual Charter Agreement. The DE handles this with the
IH usually. Has to be done once a year. It restates in one page form some
of what is said in the Membership/Relationships guide.
Scoutmaster Handbook, #33009 (1998). Read pages 2 and 3. Go over them with
the Scoutmaster. Jump to pages 8 and 9. Dwell on Method 5. See what it
says the youth do!?! How can he as SM do what is expected of HIM according
to this book if he is not there? Look at page 28, top left, note in bold
letters - applies to adults as well as youth.
Go to Chapter 16 next. point out page 157, bottom section - the most
important responsibility of the committee. Review Chapter 18.
Good Luck and Good Scouting.
YIS, Jim Sheckels-I used to be a Bobwhite,SE-308-7 & US Army 1SG(Ret)
CC/CR, Troop 742, Hope Mills United Methodist Church, NC
V-Chair, Council Relationships Committee, Occoneechee Council #421