Scouts-L Mail Archive for February of 1999: Re: Quick(?) Questions
Re: Quick(?) Questions
Anthony J. Mako
Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:53:08 -0500
<Lee Hudson wrote>
1) I've been told recently that the only multiple adult position allowed
is the COR also registered as CC. Is this so?
The COR is the only person who can multiple register IN THE SAME UNIT.
The stipulation is that the COR cannot also register as the SM. He can
register as any other adult position, including the CC. All other adults
can multiple register as long as they are only registered once in any
2) We're in a fairly rural area. Is there a reason why we should tell
our Webelos that the only troop available to them is our Chartered
There is absolutely (I repeat ABSOLUTELY) no reason to tell a Scout that
the only troop available to them is your CO troop! If I remember
correctly, one of the requirements for Arrow of Light is to visit at
least two troops.
We have a decent outdoor program in our local troop but lose a high
percentage of new boys crossing-over because they are not interested in
climbing mountains at break-neck speed. Those who don't enjoy ...
considered 'weenies' ... weren't good Scouts because they couldn't
(didn't want to) keep up. My loyalty to my Chartered Organization has
been questioned by my DE ... I feel that a neighboring troop is MUCH
better than no ... Opinions?
I have to tell you that nothing in this world gets me more angry than
statements like the one you describe. Scouting should be an activity the
boy ENJOYS, not one he has to force himself to participate in. From my
point of view, you are right. If it were me, I'd be questioning the DE's
loyalty to his job. If your chartered organization doesn't have a
problem with you philosophy, why should anyone else?
3) How do I politically correctly communicate to my District that my
Unit Commissioner is a name on paper, only, and that my District
Commissioner appeared in front of my pack's parents in an untucked
uniform shirt and blue jeans, proclaiming that in 'their pack', they
have decided not to wear uniform pants and that the rules regarding Cub
Family camping can be over-ridden if you don't call it a Scout event,
just refer to it as a sleep-over for your son & his friends and
coincidentally invite your den (etc, etc.) I don't want to make anyone
else angry but I regularly need the assistance of my commissioners!
The place to begin is the District Chairman. He's the top volunteer in
the district, and it's his job to make sure the rest of his staff does
their job properly. Simply explain to him calmly and courteously what
your situation is and what you have observed, and he should very quickly
take care of things. If nothing happens, follow up your conversation
with a formal letter addressed to the District Chairman, District
Executive, and the Field Director. After that, it's just a matter of
gradually taking it up the council chain of command to the Council
President and Council Executive.
One important note: Make sure your COR is aware that he is a member of
the District Committee and has a vote on anything decided by the
committee. As such, he also has some rather direct influence on the
District Commissioner and District Chairman. In fact, the COR should
probably be the one to bring the problem to the DC's attention. He/she
should also be the one to be the primary signature on any
It sounds to me as though there is a severe lack of training on the part
of the district commissioners (who should all have been to at least
Scoutmaster Fundamentals, Cub Leader training, or Commissioner's
College). Most likely, the district is very aware of their "paper"
commissioners (I'm still looking for mine!), which means that their
effort to recruit more commissioners hasn't been successful. Some
districts, who may be pressed for volunteers, simply carry over the
names of inactive commissioners from year to year until they can replace
them. The problem is, if they aren't actively recruiting, they'll never
replace them. And, yes, there are still a few districts out there
diligently trying to preserve their "ol' boy" network rather than
actively seek out new blood. It's all part of the politics of district
level Scouting, which is why it may be impossible to approach them
Anthony J. Mako, firstname.lastname@example.org ,Scoutmaster, Troop 381
http://members.aol.com/Scouts381/ "Home of the Unofficial Boy Scout
Great Trail Council - Akron, Ohio
"I used to be an Eagle (C-7-97), but I'll always be an Eagle (1981)"