Scouts-L Mail Archive for February of 1999: Re: Posting To Scouts-L
Re: Posting To Scouts-L
Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:05:37 -0600
Marcel <marcel@OMNICAST.NET> wrote and asked:
>With posts restricted to fifty a day it seems like
>rec.scouiting.usa would be a better venue.
The decision to hold the list at 50 messages a day was made because
many of the people here PAY for their email BY THE MESSAGE or BY
THE LINE. Others get their email at work or through other avenues
which restrict the total amount of email held each day until they
The other reason why the list is held at 50 per day is to give
those people whom were overwhelmed by getting on some days 150 or
more messages and the next day 20 time to "read through and respond
to" the various postings and items contained on our list. I feel
that it's a good compromise, even when I want to answer a posting
RIGHT AWAY and find that the list has already reached its limit for
the 24 hour period.
Besides, we spend on average 10 calendar days on a topic before its
"rested" or we move onward to another topic; very seldom does a
topic exceed 20 days or more in discussion even if it's a silly
question like "which Wood Badge animal is the best one to be named
to if I was going to Wood Badge?"
(Silly because first, you don't have any input into which Patrol or
Den you'll be a part of; and second, because ALL Patrols and Dens
are "what you make of it," not "the name or animal associated with
it." But it makes for GREAT discussion, nevertheless! *smiling*)
>Or start an unmoderated group at XXX.Scouting.giveandtake.
There's several problems with USENET groups, Marcel, and this is
based on my own experience with the rec.scouting.* groups over the
last eight years.
The biggest problem is that there's no "control factor" built into
the group. This is a good and bad thing. Good, because it allows
anyone to say or post anything they choose to. Bad, because it
allows anyone to say or post anything they choose to. Unlike a
mailing list, Marcel, USENET newsgroups are free-willing bodies
which simply take what I post and "tacks" it onto boards worldwide.
Likewise, someone with NO interest whatsoever in Scouting can
"tack" a posting next to mine expressing their personal desires for
cutting up little boys, for instance. This makes the posting of
notes to such forums dangerous and at the same time exciting.
This could be solved with a moderated newsgroup, but then, someone
would have to go through literally HUNDREDS of postings sent to him
or her, approve them, and post them. Depending on the person's
viewpoint, my posting could be approved, disapproved or just
dropped with no explaination whatsoever.
The next set of problems is that messages stay on the "board" much
longer than the current discussion. This is again good and bad.
Good because it allows those "just joining us" to get a good review
about what's been discussed before; the bad part is that news
servers would have one more newsgroup to "keep tabs on."
Finally, to access a newsgroup, you need a newsreader; and not all
businesses, universities, nor private ISP (Internet Service
Providers) allow access to USENET Newsgroups (even the "big 8", the
most common newsgroups, which would include the "rec.*" groups).
ALL ISPs, ALL businesses, ALL universities allow email access...it
is universal and in many cases FREE. Newsgroup reading is tedious,
it's a bit dangerous (especially if you have children...there's a
lot of negative newsgroups out there) and besides, you get the
email sent to you DIRECTLY without having to open another
application and "wait for it to draw down to you."
>I have started a local list and moderate only membership (Pacific
>Northwest Scouting) and another Dutchoven@onelist.com (Dutch oven
>topics only) This (Scout-L) is one of the better behaved list
>and I like that.
Thanks. Your local mailing list and the Dutch oven list are
"breakouts" from this one, and I would tend to see more new groups
evolve over the coming years as well.
>The only rules should be the scout oath and law.
Unfortunately, while those rules are great ones to follow, there's
a little more than that in running an email list like Scouts-L;
those rules are covered in the WELCOME posting each of us received
when we subscribed. While many of those "rules" and policies are
simply no more than what many nation's Scouting principles are,
there are some others that go a little bit further.
But the idea is there...
(c) 1999 Mike Walton ("no such thing as strong coffee,...") firstname.lastname@example.org
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