Scouts-L Mail Archive for February of 1999: Re: Uniform Name-Tags
Re: Uniform Name-Tags
Fri, 12 Feb 1999 02:59:56 -0600
Terence M Lynch <Terry.M.Lynch@NOAA.GOV> asked:
>At our troop committee meeting last night we had a discussion
>I have two questions for the list. First, are we 'allowed' to sew
>cloth name-tags of the BSA uniform?
Well, yeah, you're allowed to sew *anything* on the BSA's field
uniform; but it has to be in the "right place."
The only OFFICIAL "right place" for your name tags would be on the
right pocket of the uniform; that's where any temporary insignia
Now; let me suggest something that you may have considered but
turned it down. The BSA DOES permit nametags to be worn on the
uniform but DOES NOT say anything about whether they have to be the
"pin on" type, although the BSA does make them available:
>From the Insignia Guide, page 36:
NAMEPLATE, white letters on black plastic (#20100). Worn by all
members, either above BSA strip, above interpreter strip, or
centered on right breast pocket flap. May also be worn at top edge
of left breast pocket on male dress uniform (the dress suit) or on
right lapel of female dress uniform (dress jacket).
(the comments in the ( ) are mine and not from the Guide).
What keeps your unit from getting black peel-on nametapes made with
white lettering with the first name of the Scout or Scouter, the
one color FDL and the Troop and City/State?
To *me* however, this really seems like an alful lot of expense
whereby an easier and much cheaper way of doing this can be
I would do the following; (note that while I've designed these, I
haven't tried this; but it does make sense to me that it would
work. It works with my ink-jet printer but I don't have a laser
First, get a set of Avery one-inch labels for an LASER PRINTER.
Don't get the ones for an ink-jet printer, because you'll use up
too much ink and it'll smear. (I DO know about that!)
Second, use a desktop publishing package (small plug here: the
shareware NewPublish program, available for downloading from the
Leaders' Online website, would work well here; and there's a
template called "name tags" that's also available for downloading
as well that would work great too!) and create the design and name
(I would use first name and initial of last name -- Mike W. for
Print the information onto the label in INVERSE mode (so that the
black becomes the background and the lettering white), peel and
stick onto the uniform. You can hand Scouts their own "set of
labels" prior to their activity or when they first join.
What this does is several things:
*It allows for the Scout/Scouter to wear the strip at several
different times, each time with a "fresh strip"
*It saves the uniform from unneccessary "additional sewn-in
*It saves money that the unit can use for other needs/wants
*It keeps Scouts from adding "additional stuff" to the name tags,
since they are in black.
You can even go the extra step and have the front covered in that
clear stuff so that it adds some "stiffning" to the tape while
still allowing it to be attached to and from the uniform shirt
The downside is that some "snotnosed kid" in your unit would want
to "trade names" or otherwise deface the "tag." There's nothing
that can be done about that.
>And secondly, is that a wise thing? It was brought up that you
>might not want everybody and anybody in a public place being able
>to call the boy by his first name. (We all agreed that first and
>last names wouldn't be appropriate).
While first and last names may not be appropriate, it's exactly
what the BSA says should be on the nametags. I would settle with
the first name and last name initial as I've wrote above for
Wise? This depends on where you're planning to wear the tags. If
you're planning to wear them at a public theme park, mall, or
something similar, whereby you're not sure of the people there, I
would not wear them. If you're plan on wearing them at Scout camp
or on a visit to a facility, yeah, it would be appropriate.
Likewise with wearing them during unit meetings or Courts of Honor.
I *personally* don't see the need for them; I've witnessed
Scoutmasters of 100-plus Troops know each Scout at least by first
name, if not a nickname. He may not know everything about that
Scout, but at least he can get their attention. I'm not great with
names; Jessi will tell you I'm not good with numbers, either. But
I can get your attention if I need to and with time, learn your
name and something about you that I would further associate your
Those same techniques need to be taught to your Scouts, and there's
several fun ways that those skills can be taught to them. A name
tape is good...it enhances togetherness and even during Jamborees
we use them. But the *Scouting way* is to get to know each member
of the team and something about them.
All of the team members.
Hope this all helps out, Terry!
(c) 1999 Mike Walton ("no such thing as strong coffee,...") email@example.com
http://www.mninter.net/~blkeagle Burnsville, MN 55306-7130 (612) 435-3068
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