Scouts-L Mail Archive for November of 1998: Adult Dual/Multiple Registrations (Bit Long)
Adult Dual/Multiple Registrations (Bit Long)
James A. Sheckels
Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:27:07 -0500
Over the last week there have been several posts regarding dual
registration or role filling within units and districts. Many
responses have been made, some accurate, some inaccurate, but most
without referencing the pertinent material fully. (And if you know
me, you know I like knowing the full story ;-)).
Of course, the final decision rests with the local units and
districts/councils as to how they will handle any given situation.
What follows is simply a referral to pertinent BSA references, along
with some of my institutional knowledge if applicable.
First, let's talk about what dual registered and multiple registered
registration - This refers to being registered in two separate
entities (two units, a unit and district or council, etc). The person
dual registered actually has paid for the registration in both
positions. This can be across Councils. The main advantage to this
type registration, as I see it, is that the person will receive all
mailings related to both positions. Essentially, the person has two
(or more) primary registrations.
Multiple registration refers to having one paid (or primary)
registration, and one or more secondary (unpaid) registrations. This
registration cannot happen across Councils. The main advantage here
seems to be economical only - paying only one time. The person in
this situation has to decide where their primary position will be, as
it will effect the mailings they receive. Each Council most likely
has it's own policy regarding multiple registration and where the
primary position should be.
In my case, I am a multiple registered Scouter. My primary position
is as Chartered Organization Representative, with a multiple
registration as Committee Chairman for our Boy Scout Troop. I am also
multiple registered as an Assistant Council Commissioner.
As to tenure for training awards, one must be registered in a position
to accrue tenure. This applies to any type registration (single,
multiple or dual), BUT - the same period of tenure MAY NOT be used for
two separate awards for the same period of time. This is stated in
the Leadership Training Committee Guide, #34169A, on page 32. The
guide does not apply any restrictions to earning the awards based on
registration type, but does state that the *council* leadership
training committee is tasked with the responsibility for interpreting
and approving the awards. Commissioners are tasked with certifying
performance, and the council committee may designate others to approve
Now to the references concerning these registrations. The most
readily available reference for the volunteer unit level leader is the
Adult Application, #28-051N. On the inside of the front cover, left
column, about 2/3 way down is a paragraph entitled "Qualifications".
The last sentence of this paragraph states: "No one may register in
more than one position in the same unit, except the chartered
This speaks only to *registration*, not *performance*, but the intent
is that the roles within a unit are separate and distinct one from the
other. And objectivity is a desire also.
SO why can the CR be registered multiple in the same unit? This is
actually a misnomer, as the position of CR actually IS NOT a unit
position, rather it is a Council/District position. To best
illustrate this point, consider that the CR represents the *chartered
organization*, not the unit. Suppose a chartered partner has a pack
and a troop. Each of these units have their own committee and unit
leadership team, but both have the same CR. In other words, the CR
should be the same person for *every* unit the sponsor has a charter
for. There should not be a different CR for each unit.
Look at the Rules and Regulations of the BSA, #57-492.
In Article VIII, Adult Leadership, Section I, General, Clause 2 under
the Designation section: "Unit Scooters All adult members registered
with the unit, except the chartered organization representative who
shall be considered a council Scouter." SO this person is registered
on the unit charter (primary or multiple) but IS NOT a Unit Scouter.
In Article VI, Local Councils, Section 3, Local Units, Clause 7,
Chartered Organization Representative: "...each chartered organization
shall appoint a citizen of the United States, other than the unit
leader or assistant unit leader, as its chartered organization
representative to represent it as a member of the district committee
and as a voting member of the local council."
The Unit Leader is defined in the same article, in Clause 9,
Leadership: "Each Cub Scout Den and Webelos Den and each chartered Cub
Scout Pack, Boy Scout Troop, Varsity Scout Team and Explorer Post
shall have one citizen of the United States, 21 years of age or older,
who shall be registered and serve as the unit or den leader. A unit
leader may not serve simultaneously in any other position within the
same unit." All adult leadership positions are discussed in Clause
10, Packs; Clause 11, Troops,; Clause 12, Teams; and Clause 13, Posts,
which delineates the positions, their appointments and commissioning,
requirements and responsibilities, privileges and opportunities.
These references detail that the unit leaders, or their assistants,
shall not be *registered* NOR shall they *perform* in more than one
position in the same unit. A little more restrictive than the wording
on the Adult Application.
Now, looking to the BSA pamphlet "The Chartered Organization
Representative", #33118A, which details the BSAs guidance on who the
CR is, how s/he is appointed, and the responsibilities of the CR.
This pamphlet states that the CR must be a member of the organization
represented (page 11). This pamphlet states several times that the CR
is the chartered organization representative (not the unit rep) to the
District and Council and is a voting member of the District and
Nowhere is it stated that a person cannot have more than one
registration, be it primary or secondary, in separate units or levels
(council/district) of Scouting. Again, local councils may have more
strict policies on this issue, and they are within their rights to do
But, I hope, the above references should make it clear to us that:
(1) No one shall be registered or performing in more than one
position in any single unit, excepting the CR.
(2) The CR represents the chartered partner, not the unit.
(3) The CR is a Council/District position (hey, that means silver
(4) The CR must be a member of the organization represented.
(5) The CR cannot be a unit leader or assistant leader, but may be a
unit committee member.
(6) That the above stipulations ensure a sound, objective and quality
organization and program for our Scouts.
I now take a DEEEEEP breath and send this to the list!!
YIS, Jim Sheckels - I used to be a Bobwhite SE 308-7; 1SG,US
3501 Farm Circle Road Fayetteville, NC 28306-8303
Southern Service Area Commissioner, Occoneechee Council #421/Lodge#104
CC/CR T-742, Hope Mills,NC United Methodist Church - Member of NAUMS
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