Scouts-L Mail Archive for November of 1998: Re: Commissioner's College Paper
Re: Commissioner's College Paper
Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:15:52 -0500
>1. How many leaders in your Pack are trained?
1. 100% of our Pack (we cheat a little as my wife and I are the district
>2. How long does it usually take from registration to get your leaders
2. 90 days max.
>3. How does your Pack promote Training?
3. From the very first second we have trainers or trained leaders who are
knowledgeable about our training program at every school night. Every
parent is approached and knows that they will get support from day one.
We use our new trainees to promote within their Pack.
>4. How far do you usually have to travel to get to training
>5. How often are your training sessions offered? Do the locations vary
4./5. We offer nine Orientation and or Basic Training's in Sep. to Oct.
One formal Orientation first, almost all of our District Packs have their
own Quick Start Tapes, and then a combination Orientation/Basic together 8
times, three in the Northern part of the District, two more in the
southern and three in the central area. We also offer three additional
catch up Orientation/Basic training's one in Dec., Feb., and Apr. We
offer two WOT (WEBELOS Outdoor Leader Training's) one in Nov. and one in
>6. How long are the training sessions?
6. We follow the new syllabus but add the Orientation as part of the
Splits and we still use a mock Pack meeting at the end. The Pack meeting
gives us the opportunity to "put it all together" and for everyone to have
fun doing songs, skits,
one liners, flag ceremonies, etc. These elements are assigned to the
trainees during the split sessions. We also do a formal ceremony to give
the Trained Patch as part of the Pack Meeting (drums and all). We start
our training's out slow with the hard rules and regulation information and
build up the fun. We make an effort to heighten their emotions higher and
higher to the end of the day. Then at the very end I slow them down with
an excellent Cubmaster minute that visually tells them the "Why" that they
volunteered and explaining the invisible "hugs and kisses" that they
receive from not only their boy but hundreds of boys. They thank us
profusely for a grand day as they wipe their tears. But they remember us,
their training, and they attend roundtable.
>7. Will you District do special training for packs? (take basic to them
7. As you can see we take our Training very seriously and offer it ample
times in all areas of our District. We offer it in two evening sessions
during the week and one day sessions during a weekend day. We allow make
up at different sessions (a leader can't stay all day on a Sat so we let
him come to second week night session or just the afternoon session on
another Sat.). Any leader who just can't make it to one of our sessions
did not want to be trained. WE only hope that if the leader is still
around and finds out the fun and skills he or she missed he or she will
find a way to come at a latter date.
>8.Does your Council/District provide continuing training?
> What kind?
> Is it widely used?
8. Our Councils, University of Scouting is used yearly by over 50% of our
District Cub Leaders. We are given time at every Roundtable to add
up-to-date Inf. and to also give out Special Training Awards such as the
Scouter Award. This keeps the Training Team very visible.
>9. Do you think that training by correspondence or on the Internet is
>a reasonable alternative to traditional Cub Basic? Any draw
9. a. No.
b. In my opinion the largest problem with training now, is not the
time spent, but how boring it is presented.. Just reading/presenting the
information is only half a proper training. Fun and reflection at a live
training is what keeps their program alive. Most trainees are there for
personal information not covered in the syllabus but only through the
experience passed on by the trainers. Reading the Book is OK but hands on
experience is "Trained"
>10. What are the biggest gripes you hear about training & Reasons for
10. We honestly get leaders back a second time. At our last WOT they all
wanted to have a reunion as a group. We rarely have the leader with a
chip on their shoulder who felt forced by their pack but no one can help
them. Although we take a 4 hr. Training and take 6 hrs. to complete it
with our additions, we have never had a time complaint. Our comments are
always "I didn't know that it would be such fun and where did the day go?"
Our trainees go back to their Packs and really spread the word about their
To blow our own whistle Our Council, as most Councils, has been promoting
the 100% trained leader theme, impossible as it is, our District does enjoy
an 87% trained Cub leader ratio. We have so far fully trained 104 Cub
Leaders since Sep of this year. We are one of the smaller Districts in
my two cents
Jack Clow firstname.lastname@example.org (Hey I See You Too)
Deans Staff Central Florida University of Scouting
Vice Chairman District Cub Scout Training
ASM Troop 468
Committee Pack 468
An hour a week
I have but one life to give to my boy!!!!!