Scouts-L Mail Archive for November of 1998: Re: Rank Advancement Question
Re: Rank Advancement Question
Bruce E. Cobern
Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:08:20 -0500
> From: Kim Moye <kmoye@SUN2177.SPD.DSCCC.COM>
> Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 8:35 AM
> A boy has everything currently completed except for Scoutmaster
> *AFTER* April 1, he appears for a Board of Review. Does the
> chair inform him that he must complete the new requirement since it
> after the April 1 deadline, or can the board take place.
> Bruce, Mike B., Mike W., Judy...anyone have a "written" reference for
> I can refer to?
You want WRITTEN evidence, too? :-) Seriously, there has been nothing
written about this YET. However, both Paul Wolf and I have spoken with
John Dalrymple at national, and he tells us that the criterion for use
of the old/new requirements will be whether all the requirements except
the board of review have been completed before April 1, NOT whether the
board takes place by that date.
So, in your situation, since the Scout has not had his SM conference by
that date, the TECHNICAL answer is that the Scout will have to complete
his rank using the NEW requirements. That's the technical answer,
somewhat draconian if the conference is the only thing left.
I leave it to you to figure out one or more practical solutions to the
problem, keeping in mind that there is NO external review of ANY rank
procedures within the Troop, other than for Eagle.
I haven't seen the new HB yet (hope they have it at our Scout shops
tomorrow) so I don't know if transition is discussed in the HB at all.
We all hope that it WILL be discussed in the 99 requirements book,
probably on the inside front cover, since that has been the location
for this type of information in the past.
The other "unofficial" information we have received is that there is a
3 month transition during which the Scout can use EITHER set of
requirements, which now makes even more sense with the early release of
the HB. Its tough to tell a Scout who has just joined, and whose ONLY
HB is the new one, that he will have to use the old requirements until
Also, someone mentioned in a post that there is, in addition to the new
HB, a small supplement/update to be used with the old HB. I have not
seen or heard of such a supplement. Can anyone provide more
Bruce E. Cobern