Scouts-L Mail Archive for November of 1998: Re: Who signs Advancement?
Re: Who signs Advancement?
Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:14:33 -0500
In a message dated 11/15/98 1:45:14 PM, MyersW@STAFF.ABANET.ORG wrote:
<<Is there a DEFINITIVE reference to who can signoff on the Scout
through 1st Class advancement. There seems to be a push and shove in the
troop over 'qualification' vs 'traditionally' vs 'scoutmaster only' ... etc.
Looking in any handbooks (both scout and adult), information from BSLT or
Woodbadge, etc. etc. I can find NO specific answer. It almost seem that
it is assumed that this basic question is obvious (Which of course it is,
since the way I thought it was done for the last 35+ years is surely correct
..... :-) )
Interestingly enough, asking my District Exec, as I picked up
popcorn yesterday yielded the answer. "Scoutmasters and Asst. Scoutmasters
but I've don't think it's actually written anywhere."
Committee Member... Trp #123 ... Calumet
This is a very interesting question. As with many things in Scouting, it
quite intentionally is not specified by "National" in order to leave the
individual units the capability to meet their individual needs.
However, I have heard of or seen the following different ways that individual
units have laid out their rules
1) "You have to be a rank higher than the rank you're passing"
2) "You have to be at least the rank you are passing"
3) Patrol leaders can pass anything
4) Patrol leaders can pass anything and they can delgate further within their
5) Troop Instructors can pass areas that they instruct
6) The PLC decides who can pass what (This is not a broad approval. It means
that maybe I get approved for fire building and you get approved for
8) The Scoutmaster decides who can pass what
9) Scoutmasters and Assistants only
The needs of a brand new troop with the highest ranking Troop member being a
Scout or Tenderfoot Scout can be very different from a high powered Troop with
many Eagle Scouts and that may be different from your more average Troop where
patrol leaders are typically Second Class Scouts, First Class Scouts or Star
Scouts. In each case, I believe it is a good idea to give the PLC and the boy
leaders the greatest reasonable empowerment to approve advancement through
First Class. Where this authorization rests should change as troop members
advance and should be monitored through Scoutmaster's Conferences and through
Boards of Review.