Scouts-L Mail Archive for October of 1998: Leaderless Den, no Pack Support
Leaderless Den, no Pack Support
Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:27:10 -0500
Thanks for all the valuable input on this post about 3 weeks ago. As usual
this virtual campfire can be depended on for some great ideas.
For those who are curious - this is how the situation has evolved.
The Unit Commissioner was never contacted (as was suggested by several on
the list) since the situation was "resolved" before this suggestion could be
made to those affected. The Cub Master and Committee Chairman feel all is
well in Gwinnett County since a "leader" has been found.
As a result of not having a den leader, the six scout Tiger Den dwindled to
two for the Wolf year. One left scouting, one was allowed to transfer to
the other Wolf den, two transferred to other packs. The Pack had registered
three additional Wolf scouts at the roundup. One of these has dropped from
scouting. So that leaves this Wolf Den with four scouts. (Out of what could
have been 8 or 9 for the Wolf year).
One of the Wolf parents called the Cub Master to ask what was going to
happen and was harassed into being named the den leader. He has no prior
scouting experience, no training (although he thinks his schedule _might_
permit him to go to the council training session), and has stated openly
since assuming the position that he cannot do it (He had stated this before
being named den leader and stated the legitimate reasons for his not being
able to be a leader).
Because of his personal situation, this den leader thinks he might be able
to have one den meeting per month and hopes the scouts will also be able to
attend the monthly pack meeting (Another words - this den will be lucky to
have two exposures to scouting each month).
He has asked both the Cub Master and Committee Chairman for some guidance
and has been told by both that it is simple to be a den leader - all he has
to do is go to the council training and then read the Wolf book. His
perception is that the Cub Master and Committee Chairman have washed their
hands of the situation and are not willing to do anything to make this a
He has also contacted the other Wolf Den leader, but has gotten no
cooperation. His take on this is that the other leader is afraid of being
saddled with leading both dens, so is not willing to share any knowledge.
I really only intended to give an update and not to ask a question, but as I
write this I would solicit comments on this "solution".
Is giving the scouts such a marginal program common or acceptable.
Is leadership by a parent who is not familiar with scouting and with no
guidance from pack leadership common or acceptable.
Is the lack of interest in the individual dens success by the Cub Master and
Committee Chairman common or acceptable.