Scouts-L Mail Archive for October of 1998: We have a definative answer...
We have a definative answer...
Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:34:32 -0400
....on a problem that has perpetually plaqued the list. It is the answer I
supposed, but anyways.
The skinny part is son #1 got to the end of an Exploring event. We got the
kids to where they were to be picked up. No answer for one Explorer. We have
tour permit for event and everything is covered. My son asks to drive Explorer
An hour later wife calls me at church. Accident in heavy rainstorm. Both
shaken, none really injured, although Explorer gets a week off of gym and
insurance rates will rocket, I am sure. Per orders for "emergencies" - defined
as anything where someone is hurt, we contact council holding tour permit.
Where we are informed that, the event being over, transportation to and from
is entirely our responsibility and our insurance problem. This tears at my
gut, but I do not complain, as I said, it is what I expected.
I leave church hanging heavy on the car phone redial button because phone
rings at parent of boy transported to hospital but no one picks up. I now know
how the military guys who have to drive up to your home to announce someone
was killed must feel since, even proceeding with "everything is O.K. but we've
been trying to call you, Matt and Ray were in and accident and we need you to
get Ray discharged" (which incidentally, shows how far your permission slip
and hold harmless will get you when the hospital considers mom and dad close
enough to incident to come and get the kid. Sorry folks, we need to find
something better and iron tight) was met with fear, anxiety, and running like
I haven't seen from someone my age since my dad found out I had my first
epileptic seizure twenty-five or so years ago.
I tell parents that everything should go through my insurance. They ask why,
it was a BSA event, I stretch it to be "everything goes through my insurance
first and then through BSA" so they are not upset or concerned, although I
have already begun coaching son. He shows me accident scene and we pace off
distance of oncoming vehicle (vehicle that hit them had No Lights on in heavy
rain storm [anyone see the Northwestern game? It was like that on and off all
day], no one in other lane so he could've gone around, time from where he was
to where son was at time of accident was 6 seconds by my timing, 8 by his by
then thrown off ability to think, so of course the youth got the ticket
because he was turning and OF COURSE he therefore didn't yield to oncoming
Anyways, anyone with youth who wish to drive people to and from events or
meeting? You now know what you will be greeted with if someone declares you
shouldn't have let it occur, so add it to troop handbooks, put it in
guidelines, place it in print, and don't let anyone lull you into complacency
on it. Because if mom and dad here or the guy who hit Matt decide to take this
further than they all appeared to be worried about at the time my personal
insurance will be a bear.
Sorry we had to have something happen to prove what would happen to the list.
Didn't plan it that way, I assure you.
Dang, I'm just getting going from my broken wrist...