Scouts-L Mail Archive for October of 1998: Re: Safety Merit Badge
Re: Safety Merit Badge
Bruce E. Cobern
Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:26:49 -0400
> From: Paul S. Wolf <Paul.S.Wolf@ALUM.WPI.EDU>
> Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 9:16 AM
> I think Mike is CLOSE on his information. I think the date he was
> thinking of for the BoR Deadline is actually July 1, 1999 - 3 months
> after the deadline for completing the requirements.
> Here is what I recall:
> I would assume the rules will be similar to those for 18 year old
> Scouts. Any Scout that completes the current requirements BEFORE April
> 1, 1999 (or his 18th birthday - whichever is first), may have his Board
> of Review after that date. If the BoR is less than 3 months after that
> date, there will be NO documentation needed. Between 3 & 6 months after
> that date, a Scout would need to include a note (which is sent along to
> national with the application) explaining why the BoR was delayed.
> After 6 months, permission to hold the BOR must be secured from national
> BEFORE the BoR can be held.
Well, Paul has arrived at the same logical extension of the "age 18" rules
to apply to this situation. While it would be logical to extrapolate from
one situation to the other, I think Paul would agree that we have had no
specific guidance on this other than the fact that both have individually
been told that it will be "work completed" and not "Board of Review by"
April 1, 1999. I think that, barring specific contrary instructions, it
makes sense to work within these guidelines.
> I was a District Representative at an Eagle BoR last week that was held
> 5 months and 30 days after the Scout's 18th birthday. He needed to
> submit a letter explaining the delay, which was considered as part of
> the BoR process. Had it been 2 days later, we could not have held the
> BoR without National approval.
While I know Paul knows this, let me just add that the current rules
require that the letter of explanation come from an adult. While it is
true that the Scout himself is an adult by this time, I believe the intent
is that the delay be explained by one of the adults involved in the
process of putting the board together, the SM, Committee Chairman,
District Advancement Chairman, Executive, etc. I know that one of my SE's
used to just use the letter we submitted as a guide and always drafted his
own cover letter when submitting these Eagle applications. I believe my
current SE forwards the letter we submit with a short cover letter of his
Let me also say that had this board not been held when it was that
national would almost certainly have granted permission for it to be held
beyond 6 months. Has anyone heard of an instance where they have refused
> (I believe the rules for 18 year olds are listed on the Eagle
They are, and in Advancement Guidelines.