Scouts-L Mail Archive for October of 1998: Re: Reintroduction -- and a question
Re: Reintroduction -- and a question
Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:39:45 -0400
Hmmm... I am reminded of another current issue of a national nature
involving a leader making a critically poor choice, stepping out of his
leadership role, and causing folks to question his morals and
character... or loss thereof... You all know who I am speaking about.
It sounds to me like that same scenario.
I, too, am surprised at the guy for even having alcohol along on the
campout, and there may be the bigger question. If he has a problem with
the stuff, it seems that he never should have included it in his pack in
the first place knowing that the temptation would be there for him.
Being one of those who traditionally straddles the fence on any issue, I
prefer to look at everything before jumping to conclusions, weighing all
sides. Has he been a SM with his unit a long time? Does he have a good
reputation otherwise? Is he an asset to his troop (altho I would never
expect to see our SM in this situation, if he did, his wonderful
reputation would certainly buy another chance for him after a severe
tail-chewing...He would probably resign on his own, knowing him) On the
other hand, his position as a leader and role model of young men fairly
dictates that he be removed from his position after a severe censure.
I asked my 17 yr. old son what he thought about the issue and being the
wonderful guy that is is, he said that he thought the boys in the guy's
troop should be involved in the decision, which I think is the best
suggestion of all. After all, it is they who have the relationship with
him, and they will learn a great deal about ethics and life by being
involved in the decision-making process. It is also they who will be
ultimately affected by whatever decision is made. (I'm talking about
involving the older boys who are mature enough to participate in
something like this.) (And for those of you nay-sayers out there who
disagree with me, I know that our boys in our troop are nearly all able
to participate in a discussion of this type, most being over 15 years
old and by being Scouts who have being taught to use their brains and
Personally, I don't know what you should do, as I don't know the guy or
the total picture. It is difficult to give the big picture over the net
and get the correct answer. However, please consider my son's idea. He
would be very upset if something like this were to happen to his
Scoutmaster and the boys who have been together with him for the past
eight years weren't afforded the opportunity to participate in the
discussions. After all, their opinions are the ones that will be
affected in the long run.
Betsy "Beaver Miller, RN, ASM Troop 321, Tifton, GA
Ted Burton wrote:
>A Scoutmaster who got drunk on a campout. I am told he is nearly as shocked as the >rest of us. He was having a bad time in several ways, which is a common excuse offered >by those who abuse, but why did he have the stuff along at all? Thoughts of the group >here: cashier him? cashier him unless he gets counseling? accept his apologies and >promises of nothing of the sort ever again? Whither?