Scouts-L Mail Archive for October of 1998: Re: Etiquette for WEbelos invites to Troop activity
Re: Etiquette for WEbelos invites to Troop activity
Sat, 10 Oct 1998 09:18:32 -0400
Ahhhhh University of Scouting is next week-end and such an appropriate
warm up via my old dissertation topic... Webelos Crossovers and 1st year
Scouting. Shortly into the project I made the RT announcement that
close to 200 Webelos were in a position to cross over during the next 12
months and I had numbers and Pack numbers to give to anyone who wanted
them. To my knowledge, only one Troop came by to get a copy (ironically
- maybe not) it was the Troop I registered with.
"We have not been invited anywhere, by anyone...."
Most Troops and Packs in this district didn't have or didn't
coordinate activities among themselves. Even IF unit personell
permitted it, they get so busy with so many things it's all to easy to
forget or to think the "other guy" is handling that part. The programs
ARE substantially different.
"I talked to a roundtable leader last week and she said we'd be welcome
with her troop..."
Having been Cub RT Commish for a short period of time, even the
communication between the RT staff is often harried due to so many hats
to wear. The Cub Commish we currently have does a fantastic job of
staying informed and being informative (Hi Larry.) So now that you have
an invite, plan the trip. If you get a WARM invitation from your
associated Troop, you'll be ready and have a choice. If you DO go with
the home Troop, a "Hello" visit with Thank you dump cake (or something)
would be appropriate.
"Meanwhile, my hometown troop has not said anything to me (Im the CM
I would expect to hear 1 way or the other) about Camperall. I had to ask
the roundtable staff what a Camperall was in the first place<g>, so Im
flying blind here." (Have you or your WDL(s) done Webelos Overnighter
Here, I'm a little spoiled. We just finished our District Camporee
and the Camporee Coordinators were very experienced and vocal about
making sure everyone was informed and felt welcome. If you are at the
meetings, your RT staff needs to make sure, scream, shout, whoop it up
and make sure everyone is aware to the point of almost being annoyed
(well not that far) that they snswer questions or find answers.
"I dont want to make the hometown troop's SM feel <whatever> by calling
saying (in one nice way or another) 'hey, why havent you invited us
camping, to Camperall, etc?', but at the same time, my boys deserve to
visit troops like anyone else and Id expect that the most-local troop
at least want to recruit SOME of this group."
I would try to avoid the "Hey why didn't you..." approach. If the
leadership is pushing their time to the limit as it is, another
accusation of not providing enough xyz will make the lack of
communication even more thorny. Yes indeed, your Webelos deserve every
opportunity to visit and determine which Troop offers what they are
looking for and each might be looking for different things.
"What is SOP for these situations?"
Don't worry about SOP even if there was one. Call the Troop and
tell him=her-them that you'd like to come. If they hemmm and hawww, red
flags and buzzers should spring up-off. The Troop might not have the
adult leaders to extend any futher than they are. They may be close to
overwhelmed with what they have on their plate right now. Their program
may be in an entropic stage.
If your local Troop says, "Not this time." be sure to go with one that
invited you. There is no territorialism. Even if there was, your local
troop, for whatever reason, legitamate or unintentional, dropped the
One of the findings in this district was that Troops considered
that they made good and regular contact with Packs but that Packs
didn't. Packs indicated that they made good and regular efforts to
communicate with Troops but Troops didn't. Hummmmmmm
*Make sure Cub RT and Scout RT people have a joint time to make
announcements and make the real impression that they are on the same
team but with their own speciality.
*Make sure the Pack has a designated person (ahhh the luxury) say ACM
or WDL to check with the Troops somewhat regularly, either at a meeting
or the Committee meeting. Guarenteed, a uniformed adult "stranger"
walking into the room will generate enormous attention from other adult
*Find out if the Troop has a New Scout Patrol Asst. Scoutmaster and
establish him/her as your contact person.
Those jobs add another twist to a hat, but to keep Webelos excited and
eager participants as 1st year Scouts, it's important. For a Troop to
stay vitalized, it's critical. One well established Troop that is in
the process of going under because they seem to have focused on their
older guys and their OA participation. It's too bad because they have
had some good adult support in the past.
Jim Wellborn Gulf Ridge Council
firstname.lastname@example.org Crystal River, FL