Scouts-L Mail Archive for September of 1998: Cooking req's Part:2/2
Cooking req's Part:2/2
David F. Delman
Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:27:44 -0400
Part:2 of a Two Part Message (due to my long wind and =
JonE's line limit) Please put in order if the List =
separates them in some weird way
Buck is back, Don't you want some Popcorn for 25c
The NITTY GRITTY (of my preferred method)
3>Patrol planning the Meal at the Patrol section
of the Weekly Scout Meeting
(These bunch of sometimes picky eating boys have
( to reasonably agree on what the Cook will plan
( and add some options for special scouts.
-The Cook for 1stClass becomes the Menu Waiter
and Scribe for the PL who leads with an ASM or
Patrol Adult's assistance to establish an =
Agreeable Menu. Depending on the boys sometimes
the Cook can lead in place of the PL
-The Cook also works out the Duty Roster
of Fire, Cook, & CleanUp =
so everyone has a Fun and a Grime job.
(And is also counted so they show up)
(NO!! You can't just tend and poke the fire)
( "A grimy pot for everyone is our motto" )
This is where I find that JimM(Sr) is kind of right =
in the normal New Patrol situation of 5 to 8 boys.
Lets face it =
1>Poking, Feeding, and Watching a Wood Fire
2>Cooking something neat
3>Chopping the Wood
are the most fun things about cooking.
Z>Cleaning all your buddies' dishes
is almost the most unpalatable task.
Y>Cleaning a yukky pot that someone forgot to pre-grease
or baked on pasta is a running second yuk!!
In a New Patrol it is difficult to have
one boy cook all the meals on a campout. =
He doesn't like it and neither do the =
others who want their turn. For an older
boy coming in with his higher ranked =
buddies into an experienced patrol it is
an easy/FUN assignment for all of them
to let their new buddy cook everything.
So a compromise for a set of NewPatrol
scouts is to use a Balanced Duty Roster
and to have the 1stC-4req scout be a part
of a Cooking/Food Prep two-some or supervise
(basically agree by nodding of the noggin)
that the scout cooking is doing it OK.
Yes not quite like the requirement which
is why I think some word smithing could help.
In Troops that camp twice a month or use Patrol =
Campouts the requirement even for a New Patrol
is more easily met just as it is written.
4>The Menu should include some real cooking
items and a balanced meal. =
(This is hard for some troop adults to manage)
Real Cooking and a balanced meal really means =
you are assisting the 1stC scout in learning =
the book and best practices. If you let most =
GOOD scouts do their own meal planning, unchallenged,
using the often abused scout adult leader slogan =
"ONLY WHEN THE BUILDING BURNS DOWN DO WE adults intercede"
they will eat anything to nothing. =
So it is hard for most adults because they
have to intercede and make judgements and
changes to the howls of the youngin. =
"Hey "taking of their flak" isn't that why
these young men pay us the big bucks"
5>Food Budget ("Ante Up Boys/Mascot Adult")
After the menu is done the Cook computes
the cost, makes a nice chart, of his own
and collects the money before going shopping.
For a long campout (5 meals and up) This =
basically means transferring the menu onto an
ingredient chart. Any previous camping food, =
still usable, should be used up first.
(I have seen the budget done many other =
(short-cut ways yet still like this one the
(most as a teaching exercise for the cook.
(Collecting the money early insures =
(participation and a Sound Duty Roster
6>Shopping is done with a few scouts and yes =
the Mascot Adult, or 2nd who will EAT what
THEY eat and prepare. =
I know this seems kind of weird according
to the requirements and some of the scouting
literature so let me explain.
Yes only one of the scouts who shops is =
getting the requirement signed off. Yet
if you offer shopping, many times piles
of tag alongs want to join in. The boys
have a blast just being together. So if =
they want to shop together why stop their
fun. Better than TV is my motto
The "to be signed scout" is the scout
who has to be paused for a moment and
be asked the "Are you SURE" and the =
"Take your time" question. "They came =
along to have fun with you yet you are
still in charge" I.E. The Cook Dude =
is the scout that more attention is =
focussed upon. The rest listen and
learn like clever young eaglets.
6a>Identify and Insure Cooking,Fire,CleanUp Gear
The 1stC-Req4 cook working with the Patrol or =
Troop QuarterMaster should insure he has all
the gear he needs for all aspects of the job.
This means supervising packing or what is in
the Patrol Box or comes on those unusual
"can't bring a patrol box" campouts.
This can also need some youth and adult leader =
verification using a "Prove it To Me" =
"Are you Sure" attitude. Weird simple things
can be forgotten for a long campout like a =
carrot peeler, an Axe, or dry matches. Again =
my own goal is "He really knows it"
and if a youth leader "Are you sure"
(OK Wendie the Howland I forgot to mention)
(this extremely small detail in my first note
(Spaghetti can be cooked without a pot right??
7>The Patrol ASM, or Patrol Adult guides the
cook and offers "Big Gun" support
Supervising his peer scouts, or having an
older boy supervise him to meet the =
1stC-Req4 requirements on a campout is still
a supervision job best done by an adult.
The Adult should be working on two sections =
of the scout growth plan. The training of the
new and the refreshment of the experienced. =
Lots of compromises exist for how to make =
this happen and to help/guide the new scout
in accomplishing his goal.
The Mascot Adult(s) eating w/THEM
(An adult leader who puts their mouth and
(stomach on the front line like Julius =
(and Alexander is a better mentor leader
(If he/she gets sick or disgusted with
(the food or the cooking, WELL then things
( have a way of improving.
(NO! Stomach distress, and eating with dirty
(hands is not part of a natural scouting =
(experience I wanted to tell one ScoutMaster
("I got 15 yrs experience as SM what do you =
( know?" would have been his answer
8>The 1stC-Req4 Scout gets it signed off On the Campout.
This is hopefully signed off by a higher ranked scout. =
Normally the Mascot adult will need to supervise the =
sign-off. Yet there are some really good higher ranked
scouts and a troop should strive to grow them and give
them increasing authority.
My goals seem to be three fold. a>Instant Recognition
b>Skill Refreshment for the Higher Ranked
Hopefully I did a better job this time, yet as =
I wrote at the start every situation, troop and
patrol makeup is different. What works one place
doesn't always work so well someplace else and
yet many different methods still add value.
YiS, IMHO, and may we each attempt to live the SO,SL,SS,SM
Mr Dave (Hawleyton, NY (Baden-Powell Council