Re: COR & Board of Review
Anthony Mako (ajmako@NLS.NET)
Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:26:32 -0400
A COR for one of our Troops told the Committee Chair that the Troop could no
longer hold anymore Board of Reviews unless he is a member of the Board of
There is a little history of friction between the CC and COR. The reason
the CC does not want the COR on the BoR is that the COR is rough with the
Boys. What rough is we are unclear? It sounds like he might be doing some
Boy is this a sticky situation! How do you tell the COR he can't demand to
be a member of the BOR? If you bring him the literature and show him, he
might just start reading it and find out one of his jobs is to approve the
adult leadership of the troop. The next thing you know he's telling the CC
to resign and installing himself (or someone who will always say "yes") as
the CC. The troop isn't broken, but an attempt to fix what IS wrong may
- The COR is not automatically a member of committee. Only committee
members make up the BoR. This is black and white.
- If the COR was multiply registered as a Committee Member, no committee
member can demand to sit on a BoR. Or can they?
- Although the COR must approve the adult leadership, this does not give him
permission to run the troop his way. Or does it?
While he can't demand to be a member of the BOR, there isn't anything that
says he can't observe them. Any member of the committee can sit on a BOR.
Any member of the committee can sit in on a BOR to observe. If a member of
the committee (or anyone else for that matter) has to demand the right to do
something there is likely a communication problem (i.e. someone isn't
getting the word, or is simply ignoring someone else).
What many people don't understand about the COR position is that he
represent the owner of the troop. If he doesn't like what's going on he can
do whatever he wants to change it. The BSA only grants the charter to the
institution and provides support and training. How Scouting is used by the
institution is entirely up to the IH, COR, and those who are recruited to
run the program. Ultimately, though, the IH has the final say on how things
are run, and the COR is his representative in those matters.
One reason we tend to forget this is that many chartering institutions seem
to have a "fire and forget" attitude about Scouting. They are there to get
the thing started and provide space; after that they are rarely seen and
almost never heard. How many COR's show up to district committee meetings?
How many of them know that they have influence "downtown" at the council
offices? The percentage is pretty small. But whose fault is that? In my
experience commissioners and DE's rarely explain everything to the COR. In
some cases, they never even meet them. Once the adult leadership is in
place, they rarely involve the COR in the operation of the troop (unless
they need something). When training opportunities are presented, the COR
often feels as though his position doesn't really require any training.
Once we have an answer to this, that we can back up in a piece of scout
literature, the commissioner staff will go into action and clear this matter
up. Hopefully we will need to go to the COR and tell him to back off.
Actually, it sounds to me like the COR and the CC need to sit down and work
out their differences. If it were me, I'd advise the CC to offer the COR a
chance to observe the BOR. I would also go over the contents of the Troop
Committee Guidebook and the Charter Organization Representative books so
that they both have a good understanding of how things work.
Finally, while it is important for the COR to have access to the BOR and can
even be a member of the BOR if he's dual-registered, there is one important
thing the COR in question misunderstands. He can't tell the unit it can't
hold BORs. He can suspend the charter, effectively the entire unit on hold,
but there better be a good reason for it. He can remove the CC, or ask the
CC to remove a member of the committee, but that won't get him what he
wants. He can also refuse to recharter the unit, which won't mean a thing
until the charter expires. That's a pretty good reason to be cautious in
dealing with the COR.
A. J. Mako, firstname.lastname@example.org , Scoutmaster Troop 381
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