Re: WEBELOS AT CAMPOREE
Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:44:49 -0700
All goods points,Ginny
The only perfect units are in the books.
I have inner city, sub-urban and deep rural units in my district
My District covers about 800 square miles
Metro area is about 250,000 the rest scattered outward..
My eight ADCs have to know how to service those diverse interests ,so our
staff meeting become quite heated when discussing how to deliver the
But those of us at the grass roots level of scouting need to decide whether
we are in the entertainment business or the character business. Also we
need to put childish things away.(up to a point of course).
Boy Scouting found its roots out of English curiosity and opportunity.
Baden Power lived this life as a boy. He continued as a man to "scout out
Cub Scouting grew out of the pent up desire for a program for small boys
not quite ready for rigorous hiking, camping etc. Those activities have
changed dramatically in the recent decades with all kinds of constraints.
Boy Scouting serves to challenge a boy. Cub scouting serves to socialize
(Jim Bridger-Lewis and Clark-John Glenn) etc Vs Jungle book and AKELA.
Pack leadership needs to completely facilitate a boys progress thru the
tiger,wolf,bear ,lion(oops just showed my colors) . Webelos scouting
prepares a boy for boy scouting and is the gateway into the troop (hence
the arrow of light and the crossover)
Boy scouting provide opportunity for boys especially the less those boys
who are not as fortunate as other to have access to a variety of
experiences that round out a fellow.
BSA (the organization) piles on heaps of opportunity concepts. Soma
mandatory (uniforms ,insignia etc) some completely arbitrary. (50 milers,
Local Council and Chartered partners (community adults) determine who and
how the BSA Handbook for Boys et seq. will be promulgated within that
But we should not try to mix apples and oranges
An NEVER DO A JOB A BOY CAN DO.
But you related some real experiences and dealing with reality is
I would like to outline some of my observations of mixing cub scouting with
boy scouting but long posts are hard on the writer as well as the reader.
You, as committee support for both the troop and pack,are well positioned
to initiate and supervise both. Insist that your unit leaders learn more
about the history and development of scouting (Cub & Boy Scout). Since your
on the net a quick way is to post a request for several opinions about how
scouting started and how its changed. Im sure you will receive a good and
varied response for further research. Stevens Publishing ( not a
commercial) in Gila Montana publishes a variety of original scouting books
including the original "Scouting for Boys" and I think they have been
featured in our BSA literature. An they are in the scouting programs
Many of us in scout leadership try to impose the disciplines of our
callings onto a troop or pack. (be especially suspicious of those with
computers:))Sometimes its very helpful but some times it robs a leader of
growth opportunity and it robs the boy in his chance to fail. The campouts
which bring on the character outcomes we desire for our boys are the
campouts where things sometimes fail (like the weather etc.)
Ginny, try to envision the BIG PICTURE (not that I clearly understand it)
and continue to deliver scouting as your good common sense tells you to.
Red Coat in Spokane
> From: The Gillams <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: Re: WEBELOS AT CAMPOREE
> Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 5:29 AM
> That may well be the case in your area but it is not here. <snipped>
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City