Re: What do Cub Packs charge?
Mark Riffey (mr@GRANITEBEAR.COM)
Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:38:00 -0500
>Our re-charter month is March, so a new cub coming in during September
>is actually paying for 19 months of Registration (I never plan for
>boys to leave in the spring), and
Thats how we do it too. Everyone else pays in December (January is our
>Boys Life (no, Boys Life is not an optional item in my pack).
As a fellow CM, I didnt realize a CM/Committee/whoever had the power to say
that, but perhaps they do. At any rate, we have kids who cant afford BL
unless the pack or a sponsor picks it up (which we usually manage to do).
We have a lot of nice sponsors (other parents mostly) who will pick up a
shirt or a knife if they pop up on the wish list. The area in which we live
is not one where the majority of the families can afford $35, plus shirt,
unit/council patches (tigers excepted), hat, belt, book, pinewood car, etc
all at the same time.
Anyhow, at signup time, we only charge them for registration $ and Boys
Life if they want it.
The pack pays for all recognition hardware/patches. This is a big reason we
sell popcorn - to pay for those items and so a boy can pay his way to camp
via popcorn sales. We make it clear that if we do well at popcorn, we wont
have to hassle with another fundraiser all year.
>We charge all scouts and tigers $35.00. When I examined what I
>spend on Tiger Cubs it looked like this (some prices may be
>out of date since I haven't updated that part of the model yet):
>19 months of Registration: $11.08
>19 months of Boys Life: 14.25
>Tiger Family Packet: 3.50
>1/5 of an Immediate
>Recognition packet: 1.48
>Tiger Patch: 1.50
>Service Star: 1.04
>Pinewood derby Car 2.89
>total w/o tax: $35.74
>with tax on applicable items:$36.36
I dont think we have to pay tax on all this stuff, but maybe we do. Not
like thats a big deal. Does your state tax registration and Boys Life?
>We excuse Tiger Cubs from popcorn sales
Why? They are part of the official Cub program like everyone else, unlike
in previous years. Our tiger cubs tend to do quite well in all pack
activities. Sometimes they tend to be the ones who motivate the older boys
via their enthusiasm. They get a little tired sometimes during SFF, but we
are careful to select a small area for them to do. Youre never too young to
learn the lessons of SFF.
>So, I throw this out to the group. What are other folks charging?
>If they are charging less, how are they making up the difference or
>where are they seaving money? Part of my philosophy is that I hate
>hidden costs (ie, the baseball team costs only $30, BUT EVERYONE must
>sell candy), and I hate to go back time and again for more and more
We do popcorn and a car wash in the summer at Walmart (who matches funds
100% once or twice a year for groups like ours). Thats it, normally. Last
year, we (actually the CO, a non-profit registered solely for support of
the scout orgs in our town) got a $1000 grant from a private foundation,
but that money has to be shared among our new pack (now 1 yr old), a troop
and a post, so its not exactly party time. To receive the grant, we had to
have a plan for the $, so its not 'general fund' dollars and much of it
went to help the troop get a trailer (which the pack/post will benefit from
I think the car wash does about $200-300 plus the match, but that goes a
Our first year we did over $8000 in popcorn in a pack of 42 boys in a
community of 5000. I dont know if thats good or not, but this year we are
shooting for 10k. The pack takes 1/2 (or 2/3, I dont recall) of the revenue
from popcorn for its general fund (which includes advancement packets,
training for leaders etc) and the other 1/2 (or 1/3rd) is put in individual
reserve accounts for each boy, based on how much they sold. The boy can use
that $ towards registration, BL, pinewood, camp, trading post or anything
out of the BSA catalog/council office. They CANNOT get it in cash. If they
transfer out of our unit to another, we transfer the funds to that unit
under the stipulation that it belongs to the boy. If the unit doesnt agree
to use it in that manner, we let the boy spend it down via the
This year between the popcorn $ and 2 small business donations, we were
able to buy scarves and books for presentation at crossover in May. For 40+
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