Re: Fw: Re: Strippers/rules
Ted Burton (egburton@VALINT.NET)
Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:47:49 -0700
At 08:12 -0700 on 8/24/98, Richard Hunt mailed Re: Fw: Re: Strippers:
>I have to claim being prejudise here because I feel the
>Bible is Gods word and if I try and follow the ten
>commandments he gave to me then the behavior she is
>displaying is not approiate.
.... for you. Those are the only accurate words to complete your statement
above. My friend, you have pushed some buttons.
>Also we are talking about Duty to God not to Budda or
>some other God that someone has made up because if you
>go there who is to stop someone from saying that Satens
>rules shouldn't apply. To me there is and will only be
>one God and it is his rules we have to live by and if
>someone wants to follow another set of rules they should do it
>somewhere other then Scouting.
And there you have pounded on those buttons with a hammer.
Three hundred seventy eight years ago persons with that attitude came
ashore in the New [to them] World, having sought religious sanctuary from
prosecution, having a rather fundamentalist orientation, and promptly began
to denounce the existing population of the country [for whom this was very
much the OLD World] as satan worshippers apparently because their one,
supreme, great mystery was not called in their own language by a
monosyllable sounding like "God;" and their view of this one God was not
expressed in a local language verbatim translation of the Bible ... and the
existing poplulation's respect for the inherent worth and personhood of the
surrounding animals, plants and elements of the environment was denounced
as demon-worship. Why Kautontowit, the great mysterious spirit that was
supreme over all things in the mind of the Narragansett could not be viewed
as an indigenous appreciation for the existence of the One True God is
somewhat mysterious to me ... I guess the Catholics were somewhat better at
recognizing the Holy Spirit at work among indigenous folk. The Catholicsa
even appreciated the potlatch as a very Chrisitian-spirited event, rather
than as a waste of substance as it was in the minds of the more fundamental
preachers who came among them. I do not recall criticism of giving, in the
Bible ... yet giving-away ceremonies were denounced as unthrifty.
I thought we had progressed from there.
I am not a Buddhist, though I have seen Buddhism very much in action.
Buddhists do not consider Buddha to be a God, made up or otherwise, but
rather a wonderful teacher who has shown the path to perfect harmony. There
is a striking resemblance between the Ten Commandments and the fundamental
precepts of Buddhism. Some Buddhists do have a rather fundamentalist notion
of thou shallt not kill, to the point of a pacifism that gets some of them
in trouble with fundamental Protestants who demand the right in the name of
Jesus to demand that these pacifists kill ... quite a perversion of the
Sermon on the Mount.
The followers of Islam consider Allah to be God, but expressly understand
that word as their word for the very same God worshipped by Jews and
Christians. Jews of course regard God as God or Jehovah or Yahweh, by what
ever name known.
Thus I am not sure what made-up Gods are referred to.
Baden-Powell envisioned Scouting would be established world-wide and would
make war quite impossible. He did not envision the Church of England
supplanting all other religions elsewhere.
I personally believe that anyone who thinks they have ahold of the One True
Faith, not just for themselves, but for all mankind, is profoundly mislead
and does an injustice to other men of good faith. Mr. Hunt, I do not doubt
that your own faith sustains you in moments of stress and strain, and I
hope you let it guide you in all your actions, 24/7. I have seen men
sustained in moments of great stress by various flavors of Christianity,
Judaism, Buddhism, 7 Drums, Feather, and some great sense of patrol, squad,
platoon, company, divisional community ethic. I have seen it in economic
stress, in sickness, in death of others, in impending death of self, in
moments of Hell on Earth. I have also seen those who professed it loudly
during moments of calm, degenerate into something quite different when
things don't go well. I have seen Jews cradle Christians at their moment of
their death, and the reverse. I have seen men of all faiths 'weaken' into
tears over the photograph of their new child.
I do not, and will not, regard honorable men as folowers of Satan merely
because they do not adhere to one flavor of Christianity's perceived rules.
I have probably said more than enough.
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