Re: Remember Scouting is a Safe Haven...
Pam Glidden (pglidden@YAHOO.COM)
Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:37:19 -0700
I want to Thank You for you graciousness. I know that the discussion
got very heated at times, and I apologize if I offended you. As you
could tell, I feel very strongly about the subject.
I agree with you that it is sad indeed when one boy is allowed to ruin
the program for everyone else. The boys MUST experience consequences
for their actions.
Otherwise they will not learn. I hope that I didn't give the
impression before that I thought otherwise.
I also don't buy the theory of the axe murderer. I don't think one
person can turn a child into an axe murderer with such a simple action.
I had not understood that you had tried to talk to the parents more
than once. I still maintain that there might be more to their story
than you are privy to, but it sounds like you did all that you could.
You certainly can't be expected to read their minds.
I am appalled that a Scouter would contact your DE and make such a
request! I wonder if they realized that they were committing the same
action that they were condemning you for, only in a much more
underhanded way. I do NOT think that you should be removed from
Scouting. I hope that I gave you some new things to think about and
maybe some new insight into how things are for families that have to
deal with ADD/ADHD on a daily basis. That was my only intention.
Believe me, many times we also wish we could escape from it!
Chief Seattle Council
---Tim Hewitt <thewitt@FAIRCHILDSEMI.COM> wrote:
> I have not changed my opinion on this, but the discussion has been
> My opinion stands as it did at the start. If one boy puts the rest
of the troop and the program in jeopardy, than I will ask that he be
removed from the
> program if there is no way to bring him around. I was wittness to
this again last week at summer camp in another troop. The entire troop
had their camp
> experience ruined by one boy whom the Scoutmaster refused to deal
with. Very sad indeed.
> Some of you made arguments that I should put all my efforts into
this one boy,
> as without my special attention he may someday "grow up to be an axe
> (fill in your favorite crime here). In this way, even if the 10
> drop out of the program I will have done my civic duty. I don't buy
> Many of you thought that my statement meant I would not work hard
with the boy
> and his parents to bring him around. That is simply not true. I'm
sorry if it
> sounded that way. In the case in point, the boys parents refuse to
> a Scoutmaster's Conference or to meet with any member of my
> discuss their boy's behavior problems. This is not part of the deal,
> sorry. If they won't work with me, I won't work with their son. He
> welcome at the meetings until his parents make the effort they need
to make to
> meet with me and discuss the problem.
> Some of you thought that my position on this meant I would not work
> problem children but would only accept "perfect" kids. Go back and
> that I have written if you believe this. This is nonsense. I simply
> that there is a limit to how far I will go, and putting the entire
> jeopardy for one child is that line for me.
> I hope that all of you got something from this duscussion, even
those who now
> think that I am a total cad and should be removed from Scouting (one
> wrote my DE and suggested that. He got a real kick out of it).
> Tim Hewitt, Scoutmaster
> Troop 350, Old Orchard Beach, Maine
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