Re: Tour Permits
Tim Hewitt (thewitt@FAIRCHILDSEMI.COM)
Sun, 23 Aug 1998 08:19:16 -0500
Dale Karweik <karweik.1@OSU.EDU> wrote:
> I noticed an interesting line in a recent posting that implied all of us
> who have master lists of the Troop drivers and their vehicles on file at
> our local council offices are subverting regulations and cheating on the
> Tour Permit application. I find this very interesting. It implies a very
> un-Scout-like decision was made and acted upon.
I wrote that.
> Given my knowledge of the Tour Permit requirements and reasons for filing a
> Tour Permit I do not see how this can be construed as cheating or
> subverting the process.
This last part is the rub. If it's your interpretation that Tour Permits are
needed to ensure that all adults have at one time read and agree to the terms
and conditions that they can carry youth, that's fine.
It has been stated that one of the main reasons for a Tour Permit is to know
who is driving for _this_ trip - soemthing about contacting people in the case
of an emergency, is their insurance up to date for _this_ trip, and is their
Drivers License still valid for _this_ trip.
Heaven forbid that any of our parents or drivers lose their license or don't
pay their insurance premium, but my interpretation of the requirements is that
these items need to be checked for _every_trip_ in order to comply with the
letter of the law here. What about a valid inspection on their vehicle, or a
current registration. Any requirement there? Do you allow someone who has
changed vehicles/insurance carriers, etc to drive if they show up in their new
Van at 4:00am on Saturday morning? Oops, vehicle and insurance
carrier/coverage not on the list on file for this trip. Can't drive.
Having a master list filled out in September is better than nothing, but not
necessarily accurate in April. I am leaning toward a master list with
phone-call verification for accuracy before any trip. I still don't know how
to guarantee 100% accuracy before I sign and send it in though. What happens
with a dirver bails out at the last minure. Reality? You substitute someone
else and they drive the boys to the event. Rule? You must file a modified Tour
Permit 2 weeks in advance or you don't go.
I know that some of you do that, and I suspect some people cancel trips if
they lose a driver the morning of the trip - most do not. I most likely will
follow some sort of master-list approach myself, but I feel like I'm skirting
the rules and I hate that.
Tim Hewitt, Scoutmaster
Troop 350, Old Orchard Beach, Maine
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City