Re: Troop tshirts as uniform
Susan Best (sbest@NET-THING.NET)
Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:14:25 -0500
Troop T-shirts are wonderful. Our Troop designed a T-shirt that is fun an
Regarding travel (in or out of uniform). This is a pet peeve of mine. A
number of Scouters persist in perpetuating the old wives' tale that Scouts
are not covered by insurance when traveling out of uniform. Are we to
belive that Scouts from impoverished areas, who can't afford uniforms, are
not covered by insurance? Does one Scout not in uniform void the policy
for everyone in the Troop on the trip, or just those traveling in his car?
What about Scouts in partial uniforms? Does a Scout not wearing Scout sox
invalidate the policy, or are just his ankles and feet not covered?
I posed these questions to my DE recently. He replied that there never has
been a policy within BSA to invalidate insurance if Scouts are not in
uniform. He raised the issue of Troops who are too poor to afford full
uniforms (in addition to cases in some urban areas where it is not safe to
wear a uniform in public (as sad as that may be!)).
In fact, if you read through the standard local tour permit, you will note
that there are questions regarding your destination, the names and
insurance coverage of all drivers, your pledge to adhere to the Safe Swim
Defense, to have each passenger seat belted, to stay within the speed
limit, to attend to all fires, to secure a fire permit when needed, to
avoid non-Scout-like behavior, to maintain an orderly camp, burn burnable
trash, orwise pack it out, etc., etc., etc. Nowhere on the form is there
any requirement that Scouts be in uniform. Nowhere on the National Tour
permit is there a requirement that Scout travel in uniform to be covered by
Please, don't get me wrong. I think Scouts and Scouters should always
travel in uniform. Scouting is a uniformed program -- the uniform IS one
of the methods of Scouting. But the last thing a driver or Scout Leader
needs to worry about on a trip is that Johnny invalidated the insurance by
being out of uniform (and the direct consequence of that suggestion --
namely that I am now personally liable for any injury sustained by any one
of the trip!)
According to my DE and the letter he sent me, BSA does not and never has
had a policy requiring Scouts to be in unifrom while traveling for
insurance to be in effect. I don't think that a local council can make it
its local policy to initiate such a stance. Remember that BSA's insurance
is secondary to what ever insurance is carried by the drivers (hence their
suggested $50,000/$100,000/$50,000 coverage levels for individual drivers).
I don't that that BSA or a local council will be able to invalidate a
driver's personal insurance because a passenger is out of uniform.
I appologize for rambling a bit, but the issue (NOT the original writer)
struck a nerve here.
ASM Troop 296
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