Re: Remember Scouting is a Safe Haven...
Jerome J Phillips (hicap9@JUNO.COM)
Fri, 7 Aug 1998 20:08:36 -0400
SUPER LONG POST
On Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:51:31 +0000 Tim Hewitt <thewitt@FAIRCHILDSEMI.COM>
>Flame away if you must, but I will not put 10 boys in danger for one
>who "if I
>had only spent a little more quality time with him..." might continue
catch phrase of the liberals, gag gag
>Scouting. The extra effort required to make the attempt will deny the
>of the boys a good Scouting program. I want to keep the majority, not
>doesn't want to be here in the first place.
>I read with mock horror the statements that many of you make like, "I
>this kids needs Scouting more than anyone else in the Troop..." When
>this statement, you are missing the point. We are not gods. We cannot
>Stepping down off soapbox. Flame away.
AND FLAME I SHALL Tactical nuke down range.
Much of what you say has merit. But, that one you abandon will be the
one that will kill his parents then go after someone else "because no one
understands me". No we are not gods and we are not clinical
psychologists either. But we have the god given responsibility to help
our fellow man. I am very sensitive to these issuesbecause I was once
one of those trouble making kids. You know the type because you have
described what I was (broken home, alcoholism, child abuse , spousal
abuse[upon my mother], drugs, close family member murdered, etc. - been
there, done that). There was this gang that used to beat up on me
regularly, I'll even name them for posterity's sake. Harold Needham,
Barney Gaugler, Alan Gaugler, George Spieker, Paul Csensists, and a few
others. I mean they really layed into me everytime they saw me. I'd
walk down the street and these guys would go out of there way to come
after me. Who were these guys ? They were my troop committee. THEY SAVED
MY LIFE! After high school I went into the navy and at the age of 20 I
get called to the chaplain's stateroom to find out that half a world away
my mother was shot to death in a bank robbery. (I have found that God
works in mysterious ways - truly). After that I fell into the wrong
crowd and the only thing that pulled me through the years of trauma were
memories of Pappy Needham, Giggy Gaugler and his son Alan, Rev. George
Spieker ( Lamb Award recipient). They were the only stability I had in
my life. Now, at 32 I sit on church council, provide consulting services
to the handicapped, assist in running a traditional no-fee Karate school
as an outreach to young kids (Tang Soo), and like everybody else on this
list - active in many areas of unit, district and council.
I am not trying to call attention to myself.
I am not a social worker.
I am not a psychologist.
I am one man who has had a lot of life experiences and would like to make
sure that the kids have a safe yet firm haven.
As SM you can't do it alone. Enlist the help of others. You know Unit
Committee, other parents, respected people in town. And if the parents
aren't helping, maybe, just maybe when they see all the other respected
people behaving as responsible adults they may change too.
You thought you were on your soap box long.
I still have many things to learn and I have to work real hard not to
backslide - two man rule helps out alot for me.
Unfortunatly in this day and age Scouting has lost much of it's public
respect. Because we stand up for values and teach responsibility and
hold people accountable for their actions.
I will stop rambling now.
These are good discussions for late night fireside adult chats.
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Jerome J. Phillips
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