Steve Cobb (scobb@EZNET.NET)
Sat, 25 Jul 1998 22:42:51 -0700
The current discusion about hazing reminded me of two examples I would like
to submit to you for discusion.
At our council's camp there is a large set of moose antlers over the fire
place in the dinning hall. For all of the 40 years that the camp has existed
if you wore your hat into the dinning hall it was taken and hung on the
antlers. This only happened after everyone was worned the first day. You got
your hat back at the end of the week.
This applyed to everyone, staff, campers and leaders. Of course most of the
time the staff took it easy on Scouts that they recognized as first year
We no longer do this. Instead the staff just keeps reminding campers to take
off their hats. This goes on all week, while in the past after the second
day you never saw a hat on in the dinning hall.
Was this hazing or a good way to reinforce the rules?
At the same camp we called the Scout that went to the dinning hall before
each meal to set up and stayed after to clean up, Gophers.
A few years ago one of our DEs took over as the camp director and decreed
that "Calling someone a Gopher was hazing and would stop."
His reasoning was that it was demeaning to the Scout to be called by an
animal name. I guess he never heard of Bobcats, Bears, Wolfs and Eagles.
We now call those who are chosen to serve at the meals Waiters. They have to
do the exact same things what ever the name.
Was this really hazing?
OK, I have told my tale
Let the games begin.
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