Re: Compass Reqs. 2nd and 1st Class
Jon Dixon (dixonj@COLORADO.EDU)
Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:53:37 MDT
Jim Sheckels wrote:
> >>I would say that measuring height/distance has a lot to do with
> >The relationship of this with orienteering is only within the scout books.
> ME AGAIN: Au contraire. It is taught for hundreds of years by the military
> this way. It is considered in the US Army as a *basic* survival skill.
Actually, looking it up in Webster I'd have to somewhat agree with
Chris. The word orienteering (which has existed since 1948 and comes
from the Swedish) is "a cross-county race in which each participant
uses a map and compass to navigate his way between checkpoints along
an unfamiliar route." So in a strict sense orienteering refers solely
to the sport and not to ones ability to orient ones self using a map
and compass as a survival skill.
> >As an orienteer, the scout requirements for orienteering feel quite
> >innapropriate to me. It feels to me like these requirements are about
> >land navigation.
> Uh huh, and land navigation is integral to orienteering. As is map and
> compass. And any other skill one can use to orient one's self in order to
> navigate from place to place, or guide someone or something to someplace,
> or, or, or,.....
> >These skills may be usefull to navigate a ship or an airplane, but are
> >rather unrelated to orienteering.
I really don't see how estimating the height of a tree or the width of
a river is important to ship or airplane navigation (if it is close
enough to worry about you're going to want more than just estimate
whether you will miss the tree or fit into a gully).
As I see it, these measurements are tasks related to being able to
judge one's surroundings as are the orienteering tasks. No they are
not an integral part of orienteering; they are more like tasks to do
at the way stations of the course. If the object of requirement was
really to teach the boys what (the sport of) orienteering is all about
then the measurements would probably be out of place; but addressing
the sport of orienteering is what the MB is about (and there are no
measurement requirements there). This requirement helps the boys have
the skills to find there way and make judgements about their
surroundings. The use of an orienteering course helps them with that,
and estimating the size of features around them while on that course
provides some supplementary knowledge.
It is similar to the 2nd class swimming requirement, which contains
both telling about safe swimming and demonstrating swimming
proficiency. While these are distinct ideas, when viewed together
they can be seen to have as their aim safety around water.
At least that is how I see it.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City