Jerome J Phillips (hicap9@JUNO.COM)
Tue, 23 Jun 1998 23:13:43 -0400
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:20:00 -0400 Bob Morehead <rmorehead@NLS.NET>
>Another Scouter and I have a slight disagreement as to how to
>the 2nd and 1st Class swimming requirements, and I was hoping the list
>could provide some insight.
>I believe if a boy can jump into the water and pass the 1st Class test
>immediately, he should be automatically signed off for 2nd Class, as
>fulfilled those requirements in the process of completing the 1st
Someone posted a note earlier regarding looking into reasons why Scouting
has lost half of it's membership in the last twenty-five years. I submit
1. Allowing a boy to combine the requirements may streamline his
advancement but it does not teach him patience.
2. Spending time with the kids, even doing redundant tasks, is not as
one person put it "a waste of time".
3. When having someone repeat a task over again are there not other
things that they are being exposed to? Possibly learn from? - Such as a
re-enforcement of the correct way of running a swim test.
4. I come from the old school where we had to wait for time in grade
before advancing. Each step of the way we had to prove ourselves
repeatedly. This not only helped to re-enforce what we had already
learned but also let our older leaders know that we knew how to do it
right and could pass the information down to the younger boys.
Although I respect the new way of streamlining the requirements, I don't
necessarily agree with them.
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