Re: Uniform Pants
Bill Lawrence (bill.lawrence@ANSYS.COM)
Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:16:08 -0400
I told myself not to get involved in this thread, because this is one of
those "hot button" issues...
Our Troop and Post wear jeans, not uniform pants. Both Cub Packs in our
area wear jeans. No one that I know buys their kids $80 jeans or $120
shoes, not even $120 Gore-Tex hiking boots. As for my family, we buy
jeans for the kids at factory outlet shops. Kids outgrow these clothes
too fast to be laying out money for uniform pants. After all, funds
only stretch so far. The shirt is necessary, but the pants are
We do buy sporting goods in excess of $100, such as tents, backpacks,
etc. I (and our Troop and Post committee) think that's where the
parent's money should go. A good, comfortable backpack or a reliable,
dry tent beats uniform pants any day.
As to the argument that we buy complete uniforms for sports, and isn't
Scouting as important: I've never seen a kid tear up his leg sliding
into base at a Scout meeting because he didn't have uniform pants.
However, I have patched up kids who slide at baseball games without
proper sliding pants. Theres a difference between necessity and adults
insisting on a standard.
Frankly, I think the policy that has been proposed for the new Venturers
is the soundest I've heard. Venturers can wear casual or cargo shorts
or pants from any vendor (suggested color is charcoal but the members
vote on the color they want). Maybe Scouting in general should adopt
such a policy.
And if you're wondering, we don't have uniform banks in our council or
district (or if we do, no one has ever mentioned it).
Advisor, High-Adventure Post 150
Assistant Scoutmaster, Troop 150
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stuart D Snook [SMTP:dchi72@JUNO.COM]
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 1998 9:47 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
> Subject: Re: Uniform Pants
> I beg to differ on the issues presented on the last post concerning
> As a professionals myself, my Scout Executive and I, both encourage
> uniform banks. We tell parents at every school night that uniforms
> available at the Scout shop, but to try looking at garage sales,
> hand stores, or even ask neighbors with older boys. As a youth in the
> program, every DE that served our district openly supported our troops
> uniform bank, and several of them actively sought donations from
> As far as kids who may not have the proper funding for a uniform, most
> professionals that I have dealt with attempt to secure local donations
> outfit low income units. I have a newly formed cub pack of kids who
> could not afford to pay their registration, let alone buy uniforms or
> books. The local civic clubs have stepped forward and provided these
> kids with the funds necessary to be (in the kids words) "proper
> At my training course in Dallas, the issue of rural and inner city
> affording uniforms came up. The training staff highly encouraged the
> of uniform banks. They suggested that a local business could be a
> off point for old uniforms, and new parents could get uniforms there.
> In an age where parents are buying $80 jeans, $120 shoes, $50 shirts,
> sports equipment in excess of $100, a $20 Cub Scout shirt seems to be
> reasonably priced. If have parents tell me that they cannot afford to
> buy a uniform and their child is standing next to me in $150 Doc
> Boots, a $55 Ralph Lauren shirt, and $80 jeans. I have other parents
> that it is quite truthful when they say that they cannot afford a
> uniform. In a state like Louisiana, where poverty is a national past
> time, this is a big issue.
> So much for my fifteen minutes of attention, I will get off of my soap
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