Rick Seymour (Rick@SCOUTER.NET)
Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:41:15 -0500
Chuck Bramlet writes:
> It appears from this that whomever stated (IIRC) that the uniform was
> not a method in the 1960s and earlier was in error. This comes from
> "The Handbook for Scoutmasters", subtitled "A Manual for Troop Leader-
> ship", Forth edition, (c) 1947, Eleventh Printing, 1957. Pg. 10. (From
> my father's collection.)
That was me, but it was the 1970s, not the 1960s! There is an outline of=
of my posts to Scouts-L on the History of the Methods (missing the cool
It was the Sixth Edition of the Scoutmaster=92s Handbook (1972) in which
the Uniform was removed from the list of *seven* Methods of Scouting and
relegated to the list of non-essential "Other Program Elements."
>IMHO, the program still subscribes to these principles almost exactly.
Maybe we can agree that the program sitll pays lip service to these=
The graph of William Hillcourt=92s that you reproduced is one of my=
Scouting. Note that the *first* Method of Scouting was "The Scout Way,"=
stated that Scouting is a "A GAME, NOT a Science." Compare that to the
nonsense in Scoutmastership Fundamentals where the anonymous author
misquotes Baden-Powell and then proceeds to turn the misquote into some=
of scientific theorem:
"Scouting is a Game with a Purpose."
FUN is the GAME.
VALUES are the PURPOSE.
LEARNING is the PROCESS.
This, I believe, completely distracts the participants from the central,=
important point, thus spawning a brood of mean-spirited moralizing mutants,
all too willing to sacrifice the Methods of Scouting to the Purpose of=
The Fourth Edition still made the distinction that our purpose is an adult=
and that to the boys the important thing is the *game* "A boy becomes a=
for the sheer joy there is in it" (page 12).
This Edition was also the last to retain Baden-Powell and William=
use of capitalization for terms such as Uniform, Troop, Patrol, Patrol=
The Fifth Edition retained much of the same information, but some anonymous=
copyeditor removed Hillcourt=92s name, as well as his cool use of=
The title of Senior Patrol Leader (supposedly in charge of the "boy-run"=
became "senior patrol leader," while the adult title of "Scoutmaster"=
This Edition is well-worth reading cover to cover. Every page has=
useful on it. Note "Tool Three" in the Scoutmaster=92s "Tool Chest," which=
*Patrol Leaders=92* Training (as opposed to "Junior Leader" Training).=
was a sixth month course which trained Patrol Leaders how to actually run a=
Patrol! Of course this was before William Hillcourt=92s Scoutmaster=92s=
was dumbed down to that blue thing we have today, and Green Bar Bill=92s=
Leader=92s Handbook is one the things that we *don=92t* have today.
Yours in Scouting,
Beaver, NE III - 137
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