Re: PBS Video
J. Hugh Sullivan (sull@MINDSPRING.COM)
Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:09:31 -0600
I hope we don't dwell on this too long. We're leaping before we have a
chance to look so differing opinions should have a quick end IMO.
Jon Dixon <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: Policy Changes
>The place where leadership truly comes in for Eagle is in the project.
Or, as SPL, JASM and Den Chief. Or, leading Present Colors - or running the
>I really don't see the BSA homogenizing things.
I see BSA and society lumping everyone into one great mass as opposed to
separating people by ability. Each should proceed at his pace - not the
group's pace. The aim is to outdistance the group as I see it.
>The people who want to
>put impediments in front of the go-getters (like raising the minimum age
>for Eagle) are, to my mind, more guilty of doing so.
Few 13 year olds can lead 17 year olds. OTOH I don't agree with an age
requirement - if you're good enough, you're good enough.
>The BSA is trying
>to continue to make the program relevant to modern society..
You view that as desirable? Relevant - yes.
>I don't see what "pass/fail" grades have to do with this -- remember
>that Mother Nature grades pass/fail (and she doesn't curve the grade
Scouting is about life. Mother Nature and your employer grade you like
candling eggs. Survival of the fittest, second best goes to another pride,
third best to a lesser herd..... I expect there are more than 2 salaries at
your company. Since everybody passes in pass/fail, it's lumping revisited IMO.
>Actually, all of Scouting has always been pass/fail; you
>either complete the requirement or you don't.
So, everyone is SPL or Lodge Chief? I think they earn rank and they get ranked.
>Personally, I'm of the opinion that grades are overrated (I can say
>this, having above a 4.0/4.0 for high school due to AP courses and above
>a 3.8/4.0 for both undergraduate and graduate work). Too often grades
>simply reflect an ability to remember things for a short while and keep
>from getting rattled on a test. The real world is a lot different.
Isn't it all about performance? The better one performs, the higher the
rank; the better one performs, the higher the pay. I, for one, don't wish to
see that distinction blurred or lost. Grades in school mostly indicate
conscientiousness. The value of school is that it teaches us to recognize
problems, assess and utilize our resources and proceed to the optimum
solution. In life you can use the book if necessary.
A comment for Chris: Welcome back but, if everyone could earn Eagle, what's
the point in earning Eagle?
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City