Re: Intro and help.
Kevin S. Woods (kswoods@CHRISTA.UNH.EDU)
Mon, 9 Feb 1998 19:25:13 -0500
At 09:44 AM 2/9/98 -0500, Dennis Kramlich wrote:
>Now my problem. About a year ago, before I joined the troop, the scouts
>had some issues with the Chartered Org. and started a new troop
>elsewhere. Our CRO was able to keep the charter going so we could try
>to restart the troop.
Dennis, I'd like to start with a few questions about your problem, for the
1. When you say "the scouts had some issues" WHO do you refer to? The
registered leaders, the parents, or the boys themselves?
2. I am not sure HOW your CO kept the troop going, but (someone on the
list correct me if I am wrong) in order for a Troop to charter it must have
6 boys and I believe 4 adults. How exactly did they "keep" it chartered?
Well no one from either troop had been in contact with our feeder pack
until a few weeks before crossover.
3. "Feeder Packs" are an interesting concept. In a small town such as our
with 2 troops and 1 pack, boys must select one troop. In cities with
multiples of both, boys are usually able to select the troop that meets
their idea of a fun time. Does your CO see their cubs as being "locked to"
I have 1 scout who didn't like the other troop and a boy who is new to
scouts as the only members so far. ...First how do I keep the troop going
with only 2 boys?
4. Dennis, You are the SM. As I mentioned above, a troop is REQUIRED to
have a CC, SM, and I believe 3 Committee members. WHERE are they? Where
are their boys? I have seen troops and packs with paper leaders but it is
usually very tough. Where is the CR and the IH and the DE?
Second how do I keep our pack from becoming the feeder pack to the other
IMHO, you do nothing. There is no requirement of a feeder pack. You are
experiencing a similar situation to what we went through 3 years ago.
Let me briefly explain. 3 yrs ago I was asked to take the SM position of a
troop that was started due to a difference in opinons between some troop
leaders and a desire of their sons to have a different "program" from the
existing troop. (quickly,,,still BSA, but boy run, boy decisions on
activities, activities OTHER than backpacking). Their boys had grown up
and the leaders were moving out. We ran between 6-14 boys coming and going
over those years. For a while it was the CC and I running the troop with
the CC's wife as Treas, and 2 moms as committee members.
For 15 yrs prior there had been 1 pack...1 troop (albeit different CO).
For the last 2 years, I have recruited, invited Webelos to meetings, taken
them to outings, etc. in order to introduce them to our Troop. For the
last 2 years I saw Webelos follow their siblings into the other troop, and
bring their friends with them. This year, I am hoping, I have exposed them
enough to our troop that they will come to us.
BUT THE POINT IS!!!!!!! AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN THE BSA PROGRAM, WHO CARES
WHERE THEY GO!
Boys will go 1. Where they feel comfortable and safe(big brother) and 2.
Where their friends are. and 3. Where they believe they are going to have fun.
Believe me I admit to feeling disappointed when they did not cross to our
troop (especially when I was CM for 3 years and knew them well). But I
keep repeating to myself and to their parents that THEY MUST DECIDE. NOT
They must choose and as my first BSA trainer said to me..."develop a good
outdoor program, publicize & promote it,and they will join."
We now have 10 scouts (with parents committed to the program, supportive) 2
Asst. SM's and a committee of 8. We are chartered by a Vol Firemans assoc,
with very little involvement.
Last weekend we went on a winter cabin trip (not roughing it(with heat) and
we had 14 5th grade webelos and 4 of their leaders come along. They had a
great time. Will they come to our troop this Saturday at B&G? I don't
know. I have had 3 tell me they are; along with 2 parents (den leaders).
But IT IS UP TO THEM! I'll know by Friday so I can get loops and stuff.
AS LONG AS THEY REMAIN IN THE PROGRAM...They are in a good place.
Promote in your schools, use you local tabloid paper to get the word out on
EVERY event you do. Get your CO involved (if possible). Then run a BOY
LEAD, BOY RUN program. Let THEM decide what they want to do (give them
some ideas as 11 yr olds don't know what they are capable of). And do
something fun each and every month.
>From the movie..."Build it and they WILL come"
Kevin S. Woods
Scoutmaster Troop 111
Historic District DWC Training Chairperson
Former CM, Dl, WDL Pack 100
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City