Re: failure notice
Scott Begin (sbegin@MCS.NET)
Sun, 21 Dec 1997 22:25:42 -0600
At 08:27 AM 12/19/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Jackn Cudney)
>>Subject: Philmont Equipment
>>Lots of good information regarding equipment....
>> Some crews don't use tents, but prefer to use some of the
>>large tarps from the Philmont supply. Since tents weigh 4-7lbs, and only
>>sleep two, think about the tarp idea, since they weigh the same and can
>>sleep 5 or 6.
As a former Philmont Staff Member, I want to comment on this issue before
someone plans on tarps for sleeping arrangements on the trail at Philmont.
The last I knew (I worked staff 1988-90, I was last at the ranch in 1994),
Philmont was STRONGLY encouraging crews to use tents rather than using flys
for sleeping. In order to leave base camp without planning to take tents
on the trail, the crew adult leaders have to sign a liability waiver. I
remember one leader who indicated the reason he used tents rather than use
a fly was the liability waiver released Philmont from all liability during
the trip, not just due to not using tents. I have not seen the waiver, so
I can't say if this is true or not.
If you would like to use flys to sleep under rather than tents, I encourage
you to contact Philmont and ask for the Director of Program to discuss the
matter and to see the liability waiver (and / or have it checked by a lawyer).
Personally, I always used a tent in the backcountry. I felt I was better
protected from the elements (cold / wet), especially since I knew how
quickly the weather could change at Philmont. I also knew I wouldn't have
something try to crawl into my warm bag at night (mini-bears/ground
squirrels, snakes, etc..).
If you wish to use tarps when camping/backpacking elsewhere, feel free.
However, if you want to experience Philmont, you must follow their rules.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO PHILMONT!!!!!!
Scott A. Begin Philmont Ranger 1988-89, Logistics 1990
email@example.com Philmont Staff Association Member
Oak Forest, IL
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City