Re: First Class in One Year may NOT lead to Weak Eagles
Fredrich J. Cruse (fcruse@NEMONET.COM)
Sun, 21 Dec 1997 18:06:33 -0600
Boy is this topic silly!!!!!!
Does anyone out there remember the original time limits we have dealt with
for years? They were set up so that IF a boy applied himself, he could
become first class WITHIN one year. I believe that was the goal of the new
scout patrol in the first place - - - to HELP the boys advance.
I'm not sure that quality of Eagle depends as much on time as on the boys
and the program. When I grew up, in the old Kansas City Area Council
(read: H.Roe Bartle days), the Council had stricter time requirements than
National: 6 months First Class - Star; 9 months Star to Life; ONE YEAR Life
- Eagle, with District BoR for ALL advancement above First Class. With
these more strict requirement, that Council LEAD the Nation in Eagle
numbers (and may still do so - does anyone know?)
The answer seemed to be more one of quality program than time limits.
Many of you have read Jason's posts on this list. He was a one year First
Class (under the "old" program). Was also a 13 year old Eagle. Weak? You
decide: elected Senior Patrol Leader (troop size - 25 boys) so many times
he finally withdrew his name from consideration, elected Lodge Chief at age
15, reelected at age 16, Vigil at age 15, Section Vice Chief at age 17,
Chief of Sectional Conclave at age 18, Congressional Silver and Gold Award
(did no know about Bronze to have tried that), gave Council report to
Missouri Governor at age 16, Senior Patrol Leader for Council contingent at
age 15 (16th birthday at '85 Jamboree), now Wood Badge beadholder and
I don't think that one should assume that this is unique to Jason. When
Jason was Lodge Chief, five of our Eagles comprised 5/7 of the Lodge
officers one year (these boys were one year to First Class, too).
The issue is program, I believe. It was not necessary for the troop to
have guidelines about who served, just provide a quality program!
Enough soapbox. :)
Fredrich J. Cruse
"A person never stands taller than when they stoop to help a child."
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City