Re: Starting up a Venture Patrol
Jim Peterson (kupete@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU)
Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:59:24 +0100
Pete Farnham asked about starting up a venture crew program:
I can talk a little bit about the exact situation you have described...and
about the mistakes I feel like our troop made and are now feeling the
You might remember, I was the one who posted a few weeks ago about a
problem we are having in our troop with our 15-16 year old scouts. They
are now mostly Life scouts....have joined an Explorer post....but dual
register with the troop because they want to get Eagle through the troop.
They have openly stated that they want nothing to do with the rest of the
troop body....do not participate in troop activities nor do they attend
meetings. Well, enough of THAT problem. I only bring it up bec=E5use it
started with the way that we handled the Venture Crew program in our troop.
We let them call themselves "crews" instead of patrols....they immediately
separated themselves in both activities and attitudes. The troop committee
now feels that the semantics of this probably contributed to the separatist
attitude of these scouts.
I do wish that we had researched the Venture program a little more before
implementing it. It is now our understanding that "crews" are formed
expressly for the purpose of planning and executing an adventure outing.
The crew may consist of members of various patrols but exists ONLY for the
duration of the event. Once the event is over, the crew no longer exists.
We've tried this with good success for a few months now....we've basically
lost the earlier group but the 14-15 year old scouts that are in the new
Venture program are actively involved in the life of the troop. I urge you
NOT to call or organize them as "venture patrols" but to let them get
excited about planning and organizing a high-adventure excursion with a
group of scouts that is simply a "crew" of like-minded young men interested
in that particular event.
The "crew" designation helps control the size of the unit doing the event.
Crews may be a little smaller than patrols for various reasons....for
instance, we equip our crews with backpacking stoves and 4-man cook kits.
Obviously, this doesn't fit with a 6-10 person "patrol". So equipment
might be one determining factor indicating the size of the crew. There are
plenty of others....the capacity of a whitewater raft, for instance.
Good luck in your new program. Please post how it turns out as our troop
will be anxious to learn from your experience.
RT Comm, Pelathe Dist
Heart of America Council
ASM, T-55, Lawrence, Kansas Any day above ground is a good day.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City