Scott Begin (sbegin@MCS.NET)
Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:33:27 -0600
At 01:29 PM 12/16/97 -0600, Blaine A. Jackson wrote:
>...Certain adult leaders in the troop (including the advancement chairman
>and the scout's father) are continually pointing out that all advancement
>requirements must be met, "no more, no less".
>...He told me that his Eagle advancement date was September 16, 1997. I
>told him that I would accept that date, and that I knew he had completed
>enough MB's for the palm. I also told him that he needed to fill out the
>book that that all of the information was available when he came up for
>I then told him that he had not met the requirements for the palm because
>the requirement is "3 months" from the date of the last advancement. He
>said that he had because it had been 90 days. I then pointed out that
>the requirement said "3 months", not "90 days", and that there is a
>difference. 3 months from September 16 would be December 16.
>Please by-pass opinions that I was being "nitpicking". I am curious,
>however, how many members of the list think that I was right, and how
>many think that "90 days" is the same as "3 months". In my profession,
>it is NOT the same, and it makes a difference.
I think you are "nitpicking" a little bit.
First of all, when presented with a blank, new Boy Scout Handbook, you
should refer to your advancement chair's records to determine what date the
Eagle Board of Review was held. I would do this regardless of the Scout's
rank or how close the scout is to meeting the minimum time required for a
rank. You can also use this information to help the scout fill in the
Scout Handbook and you should be able to know that the merit badges for the
palm weren't used for a previous rank. I don't consider this step to be
nitpicking, but it is verifying that the scout did indeed meet the
Refusing a scoutmaster conference because the scout is 1 day short of 3
months tenure could be considered to adding to the requirements. The
"After becoming an Eagle Scout, you may earn palms by completing the
following requirements: ... 5) Take Part in a Scoutmaster Conference."
Nowhere does it say that the Scoutmaster Conference has to take place after
all the other requirements have been met. If you force the scout to do
this, you are adding to the requirements, which you cannot do.
Now, once the scout has completed the Scoutmaster Conference, the scout
would have all of the requirements met except for the Time in Rank, which
wouldn't have been completed until December 16. The scout could schedule a
Board of Review for any date on after December 16, although this you would
have to leave to your committee / advancement chair.
Yours in Scouting,
Scott A. Begin Troop 348, Oak Forest, IL, Calumet Council
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