Re: Cub Camping
Fri, 12 Dec 1997 00:39:44 -0800
>I'm told by my DE that Cubs cannot go camping except on Council property.
>What are the actual guidlines for Cub camping?
Cub camping? You have to use more descriptive terminology please. The rules
are very different for different kinds of camping. In practice it means that
you get told you can't do X when people actually mean you can't do Y. I
recommend you read your guide for safe scouting and your cub scout
leader book before you ask. This allows you to ask precisely and to recognize
what people's answer means. The Cub Scout Leader Book, (in the 1997 edition)
page 10-6 makes a difference between Recreational and Program Managed
family camping. On page 10-7 it talks about Webelos campouts which is
again different. Furthermore, Day Camp, and, Resident Camp have a different
set of rules.
Basicly the pack my NOT go camping as a pack. However the pack MAY go
camping as a bunch of family units outside of an organized program within
a scouting framework. (These words are taken from the Leader Book).
This is our praxis: The pack does not go camping; it goes family camping.
We write that that the scout insurance may not pay. Families organize
their own travel. (They can ride-share, but they organize that by
themself) Families take responsibility for their boys. We do accept people
taking guardianships for other boys, but that is a business between those
families. We limit that a person may only be guardien of boys from one
other family. The tour leader does not accept guardianship over other boys.
And finally, we do file a tour permit. We do have programmed activities
where all families may participate, but families bring or share their own
It is my belief that this is a precise interpretation of what the words in the
leader book allow.
I would recommend that you talk to your DE with a precise idea what your
setup might be (and your setup better shouldn't violate any rules). I bet
your DE will then approve of your program, or tell you how to fix your
setup so it can be approved. In doubt, talk to your DE or your commissioner.
I would not recommend to ask your trading post clerk about rule issues, at
least not about rules which are unclear to some people.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City