Re: My Troop has a Major Problem
James I. Martin, Jr. (tp523@INTRSTAR.NET)
Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:46:40 -0000
NOTE: He has been suspended before.
From: Mark <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: James I. Martin, Jr. <tp523@INTRSTAR.NET>
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Subject: Re: My Troop has a Major Problem
Date: 10 December 1997 17:38
James I. Martin, Jr. wrote:
> Dear fellow scouts and scouters,
> My name is James Martin. I am a Life Scout and the Senior Patrol
> Leader of Troop 750 out of Kipling, North Carolina. For the last year,
> have been having problems with one of our scouts, who unfortunately
> Attention Deficit Hyper Active Disorder (ADHAD). The main problem with
> is right when our meeting begins, although this is quite blunt, his
> medicine wears off. During these meetings he is constantly taunting
> Leadership along with the regular scouts. Though the leadership has
> cool and just ignored it, unfortunately, the other scouts cant. Before
> meeting began last night, the leadership told the scouts to ignore
> This they did. Well, usually you would think that the taunter would
> but he wouldnt and started beating them. We then had a conference with
> scout and told him that if he didnt stop, than we could only do so
> much to
> prevent them taking revenge on him. It climaxed as the scouts were
> for their parents to pick them up. The scout started trying to beat up
> assistant. He was then chased up a tree ( literally ) and stays their
> his mother arrives several minutes later. When the scouts mother comes
> tells our scoutmaster that he is being picked on. All I know is I can
> control him anymore. I have 3 choices I think:
> 1. Suspend him
> 2. Expell him
> 3. Let things stay the wat they are and
> let him suffer the consequences of his actions.
> More or less I can not protect him anymore.
As the father of an ADD Scout, I can sympathize with your problem. I
also have a suggestion... It is not *only* your problem. A few
questions: First, where was the adult leadership? Did they see the
incidents, and are they aware of the problems which this boy generates?
Second, how old is the "challenge"? Third, is he active in his patrol,
as well as the troop? Your overall response might be different,
depending on the answers to these questions.
I assume that the adult leadership knows about the problems which are
generated around this boy, even if they didn't see this one instance. I
suggest that you talk to your Scoutmaster first. Ask for his help.
Trust me, if you or the other junior leadership try to tell this boy's
parents about the problems you're having, they won't believe you.
Next, you need to have a troop meeting *without* the boy in question.
All the scouts need to understand that physical response to a boy
taunting or picking on them is absolutely forbidden. They need to be
reminded that a Scout is Kind and Courteous not only to those who he
finds it easy to be K&C to, but also to those who are a challenge. As
to their reaction if the boy starts hitting them, the best solution is
to remove themselves from the situation. I realize that is not easy.
Life isn't easy.
Third, I would suggest a meeting between you, the boy's PL, the adult
leaders, the boy and his parents. Mom and Dad and the boy need to
understand that ADHD is the reason why it is difficult for him to
behave. It is not an *excuse* for his bad behavior. They all need to
understand that his physical attacks on other Scouts will not be
tolerated. Make sure that they understand that if it happens again, Mom
and Dad will be called to come get him, and he will only be welcome back
in the Troop if he is accompanied by a parent.
That may actually be the best solution of all. Register a parent as an
ASM and make sure that they attend the meetings. Also make sure that
the boy has his medication whenever he attends an outing with the troop.
You're right, you have a problem. I don't, though, think it is as major
as you imply. This problem can be solved to everyone's satisfaction
with a little communication.
ASM Troop 136
CC Pack 584
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