Re: Eagle Scout Application
settummanque, or blackeagle (blkeagle@DYNASTY.NET)
Wed, 3 Dec 1997 19:29:06 -0600
>As a possible new Eagle Scout candidate (I still have a few things to do)
>I would like to know about the recommendations asked for on the
>application. The one in particular is a minister, pastor, or whatever
>the proper term is.
Depending on faith, this could be a minister, pastor, rabbi, religious
leader or a variety of other titles.
>The fact is that I am not an avid church goer, in
>fact I have never been to church with my family, short of driving by on
>the way somewhere else. Therefore I don't have a personal relationship
>with any religious folk. What should I do?
Talk with a religious leader of a church that you would *like to* attend,
Kevin. Take a few Sundays and go to several churches for their services.
Listen to the pastor, minister, rabbi, or other religious leader. Narrow it
down to one or perhaps two that *you find interesting* and that you would
feel comfortable with.
Then, make an appointment to see this person on a day OTHER THAN SUNDAY OR
MONDAY (Sunday's obious....they will be too busy to really sit down with
you; many ministers put in a 12 to 16-hour day getting ready for several
services, supervision of other programs on Sunday, and counselling church
members and their families...not to mention that they are human beings, and
as such have to go to the bathroom, eat, and have time with *their families*
and with *their faith* privately; Mondays are the "catch-up day" for many
faiths, as reports and financial counts are done on Mondays). Explain that
you are an Eagle Scout candidate and that you have not found a "church home"
but would like to obtain a recommendation from their church.
Of course, the religious leader will try to convince you to become a member
of *their church*, but at the same time, they will understand that you are
interested in getting a "apprasal of your character", which is why the
"religious leader" recommendation is on the Eagle application in the first
off-start. Not really knowing you, it may take several more interviews with
that leader before he or she can truly get a real "snapshot" of your
personal character. This is done a lot for people that just moved to a
community and need "character references" for jobs or school honors or other
things...so what you're doing isn't all that unusual.
Choose your *own path*, Kevin. While your parents may be able to assist
you, and members of your Troop and in particular your Scoutmaster may be
able to work with you on completing this part of the application, we are
talking about *your faith*. As "a Scout is Reverent", you have a golden
opportunity to discover and view a number of religions without much "static"
in your own mind as to "which are bad and which are good".
Remember that you agreed to "respect those with different beliefs than your
own", and you'll be fine.
While in high school, I was a member of a Sunday church youth group that
explored religious life. We came from a number of various religious
backgrounds, and we taught each other and ourselves what it was to be
"Catholic", "Southern Baptist", "Lutheran", "Christian Scientist" and
"Protestant". We attended services in neighboring communities, learned from
our own studies and that of our "coach", Sam DeCapu, how to pray and how to
be supportive to others. We learned, Kevin, how to be "reverent" and how to
be real in a world (back in the 70s) of lots of "unreal" people and church
leaders. I value those Sundays and looked forward to being their with my
friends, many of which I still maintain close contact with, twenty or so
years later. One of the things that Sam emphasized to us was that "you
choose your own path, and with it your own religious values to assist you as
you go down that path. Your path may not be the right one for your friends,
nor for your family, nor even for your girlfriend or boyfriend. But at the
end of your path, you and only you, must answer why you went that way and
how your values and faith assisted you in that walk. Don't jump
paths....take your time while you are young, arm yourself with knowledge and
truth and love. Then walk down that path in total confidence, knowing that
you chose it and are responsible for walking down it. Whatever you do,
don't forget that you never walk it alone." ( I use that in a lot of my
speeches over the years. While it has a religious tone to it, it also has a
youth program tone to it as well....)
Hope that I've helped you in making a decision as to how to handle it.
Don't just get *anyone* to sign it or to make a recommendation on you.
Take you time, learn and share and you'll find that it's not as hard as you
may believe it to be....and you *just might have some fun doing it*.
You have my prayers and support toward a successful Eagle Review and
experience, Kevin! Thanks for asking...it's a great question!
(c) 1997 Mike Walton ("no such thing as strong coffee,...") (502) 827-9201
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