Troop Committee Approval of Eagle Project - questions
Peter Townsend (ptownsen@HYDRA.CS.GMR.COM)
Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:05:17 -0800
From: Jeff Bloom <PDefiner@AOL.COM>
>Can all of you out there let me know how your Troop conducts the Troop
>Committee's approval of a Scout's proposed Eagle project ?
>Some Troop Comm. members feel this requires the Scout to make an oral
>presentation to the Troop Comm. for approval to submit the application to
>Council. So we have recently had the Scouts schedule an appearance during our
>monthly Troop Comm. meeting. During these oral presentations by the Scout,
>some Troop Comm. members felt they even have the right to suggest changes to
>the Scout and that the Scout return to the Troop Comm. later once the
>revisions have been re-written into the project.
As I said in a previous post on another subject, "The correct answer
is 'What do YOU want to do'". By you I refer to the troop committee.
Remember that the boy has presented to the SM his PROPOSAL for a project.
He is presenting a PROPOSAL for a project to the committee. And later,
he will present a PROPOSAL for a project for District approval. It's
APPROVED only after all three steps.
In our troop, we have the boy make an oral presentation of his project
proposal to the committee or a quorum of adults representing the committee.
After the presentation, there is usually a lively discussion with the
boy on various aspects of his planning, implementation plans, design,
or really any aspect. Many committee members have areas of expertise
that are beneficial to the boy's planning.
The committee, as the SM, also have a role in making sure;
a) that there is sufficient meat in the project to demonstrate
planning and leadership, and
b) that the boy isn't underestimating the scope and planning way
It is good experience for the boy to get all these ideas and then have
to digest them and decide what is right for him. Sometimes that will
be done right in the meeting, most times afterward. It is rare that
we have the boy re-write and re-present his proposal, after all we
are approving the "idea" and the "overall scope". It is not the
adult's role to do the planning or decide on execution, that is up
to the boy.
In my role as part of the District Advancement Committee, I follow
the same rules. I review the "idea" and "scope". I may make
suggestions. I will require enhancements only if the scope is not
adequate. Even in those cases, I will say what is lacking, but not
exactly how to enhance the project.
In both my Troop and District roles, I usually add a request to the
boy regarding his final report: a) tell what you did, b) tell what
you had to change from your original plans/ideas during the project,
and c) tell what you would do different if you were starting all
over. (i.e. what did you learn at each step).
>Concerns of some of us Asst SM's, and the SM himself, is that the Troop Comm.
>seems to be usurping some of the SM's authority, that the Troop Comm. is
>becoming too bureaucratized with "schedules" and such, and that the Troop
>Comm. is forgetting the main principle that we are here "for the boys".
I don't see the committee usurping anything here. They have a role
in the approval process. They are trying to do it. As to being
too bureaucratic, all I can say is each troop, each committee, each
workplace, is different. Its up to the people involved to decide how
they want to work. I personally prefer the more informal approach, but
that is my personal style. Work with them, try to convince them of
Keeping FUN in scOUTING, Pete Townsend ASM T188, Rochester Hills MI
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City