Re: Troop Committee Approval of Eagle Project - questions
Rick Cordray (rickc@IMAGE-TECH.COM)
Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:05:35 -0800
You've put your finger on a problem - there is no clear description in the
BSA advancement guidelines for the details behind the unit committee's
signature. You could say the same for the role of the unit leader and the
But they all sort of know what to do, right? So they are all probably
trying to do their best in the absence of clear direction, even if it seems
like everyone has conflicting interpretations. In my opinion, it is the
role of your District advancement committee to make clear the District's
expectations for the unit leader's and the committee's reviews.
Here's what we hang our hats on in this district: the guidelines and the
project workbook say that the various signatures are approving the
suitability of the recipient and the "idea" of the project, that the
purpose of the project is for the Scout to demonstrate leadership, and that
the board of review has a responsibility to question the Scout to see if he
accomplished the project according to his plan. We make "Life to Eagle" a
specific part of advancement chairman training and hold separate seminars
for the Scouts and interested adults. We have expectations for the
leadership we expect Eagle candidates to demonstrate and the amount of
planning they will have to do to satisfy the District review. We try to
make sure everyone involved understands the expectations and is working off
the same page.
If I had to reduce the whole process to its essentials, it would be this:
when the unit leader, the committee, or the District signs, they think the
Scout has proposed a project that will demonstrate Eagle-grade leadership
and had documented the planning so that the BoR can review the finished
project against the plan.
Is your Troop committee acting properly? In the abscence of specific
instructions, I think they can conduct their review any way they want. Are
they usurping the unit leader's authority? I think the unit leader and the
committee have approximately the same authority here - to see that the
project is suitable and sufficiently planned for an Eagle project.
There's no requirement that the unit leader has to approve the plan first
or the committee last.
But what I read into your committee's actions is a concern that they are
about to do something significant but don't know how or what is expected of
them. So they react by hunkering down and spreading the responsibility
around. I would suggest you get your advancement chair to chat with the
District advancement chair about the unit's responsibilities for Eagle
project approvals. If they understand what the District expects, how other
units do it, and so forth, they may feel more comfortable with a smaller,
more responsive review process.
Committee Chair, Troop 573, Woodinville, WA
Eagle Advancement Coordinator, North Lakes District
Chief Seattle Council
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:59:20 -0500
From: Jeff Bloom <PDefiner@AOL.COM>
Subject: Troop Committee Approval of Eagle Project - questions
Can all of you out there let me know how your Troop conducts the Troop
Committee's approval of a Scout's proposed Eagle project ?
We have checked & National has no further description as to what exactly is
expected here for the Unit Comm. to sign off on the project application.
Concerns of some of us Asst SM's, and the SM himself, is that the Troop
seems to be usurping some of the SM's authority, that the Troop Comm. is
becoming too bureaucratized with "schedules" and such, and that the Troop
Comm. is forgetting the main principle that we are here "for the boys".
How do other Troops handle this step in the Eagle Scout project process, &
I out of line here.... Is the Troop Comm. acting properly & responsibly &
I need to follow the "Rules of Conflict Resolution" someone else on the
recently posted ?
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City